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To: Don Lloyd who wrote (3362)11/1/2001 2:45:17 PM
From: GraceZRespond to of 24758
 
Yeah, but with the effect that the government props up the inefficient poorly run industries (ie. airlines and steel) and attempts to punish the ones who make a lot of money (Microsoft). Its the same dynamic that occurs in families where the dead beats in the family are repeatedly bailed out with money from the parents while the children who are self-sufficient get very little.



To: Don Lloyd who wrote (3362)11/1/2001 3:07:08 PM
From: AhdaRespond to of 24758
 
If you could eliminate emotion period from tax laws eliminate self it would be the best approach.

I imagine at some period in time there will be a computer that can eliminate most emotion by deducing if there is a motive in what has been programmed into it. Unfortunately this does play a part in the numerical composition of law that governs finance. Taxes should be just a mathematical formula that seeks simplicity and in doing so is fair as 1+1= 2

Removing the element of man one can achieve no self interest but fair.

At some point due to numerous errors and revisions in the law that create suicidal attourneys and accountants we have complete chaos, there from, will come order as man has outwitted himself.



To: Don Lloyd who wrote (3362)11/1/2001 3:17:34 PM
From: ahhahaRespond to of 24758
 
some corporations are able to manipulate legislators to provide custom tax breaks for themselves and to also increase general tax rates so as to impact their competitors.

Let's follow this to its logical conclusion. Just where does it stop? It doesn't unless there's an opposing force, bigger bucks put up by competitors under the ridiculous assumption that all politicians are for sale when actually very few are. Maybe none.

I know it's hard to believe, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a pol who isn't implementing the constituency dictates. Now if you want to say that corporations buy votes along constituency lines, I wouldn't disagree. Corporations are free to squander their money any way they see fit.

Let's say there is no opposing force. Then you are arguing that a few corporations which you can't find and identify are able to manipulate the majority of Congress. Indeed, no investigative reporter has ever been able to find these mythical corporations. Could it be that they don't exist? No, we have to believe in witches.

It is an inevitable result of virtually unlimited government power that corporations must lobby just to protect their own interests from attack, in addition to trying to buy special favors in some cases.

I thought we were talking about how a few corporations control government to their advantage. Now you are asserting the other side of the argument which you tacitly omitted or denied above. Just who is controlling whom?

I can answer that. The people are in control and the people enact a lot of stupid laws due to their lack of education which pushes everyone including corporations in to all sorts of absurd behavior. Looking for scapegoats adds to the misinformnation and the resulting disasters. We have only ourselves to blame.