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To: wanna_bmw who wrote (61664)	11/2/2001 1:17:30 AM
From: milo_morai	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

<font color=blue>For most of you all that will be building systems rather than buying them, the fact that the 1GHz Pentium IIIs won't be available until Q3 is a big downside, potentially a reason to go with the Athlon if you feel that you must have that sort of power soon. Intel Pentium III 1GHz Date: March 08, 2000 Type: CPU Manufacturer: Intel Author: Anand Lal Shimpi .... On a clock for clock basis, as well as on an uneven playing field, the Athlon ended up ahead of the Pentium III in every single test we could throw at it including some tests specifically optimized for the Pentium III’s SSE instructions.... anandtech.com You forgot to mention they were vaporware back then.

To: wanna_bmw who wrote (61664)	11/2/2001 1:27:26 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

wbmw, You must be confused again. From Anand's article, the 1GHz Pentium III whooped the Athlon in everything but OpenGL. Piii was a very good chip, but I disagree with that description, a better description would be that Piii was slightly faster in integer type apps, Athlon was faster in floating point based at the same frequency. That's the major flaw in your analysis, because Piii was constantly some 100 MHz or more behind Athlon, allowing Athlon to rule the benchmarks. The review you posted was done on March 12th, about 6 months before the 1 GHz Coppermine entered general availability (end of August, beginning of September 2000). Another flaw in your analysis is the fact that the real 1 GHz Piii (when it finally became available) competed against Thunderbird, not Athlon classic, which the vapor based Piii competed with. And Thunderbird was at 1.1 and 1.2 GHz at the time Piii became available. You may want to check out these benchmarks: anandtech.com Joe