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To: FaultLine who wrote (8638)11/2/2001 2:52:48 PM
From: MSI  Respond to of 281500
 
>"Sometime you have no choice but to say these other folks want to kill you one way or another."

True, but there is a way not to go to war over oil - with our energy diversity we can also remove our finger from the M.E. light socket, find other ways to replace that 13% of oil consumption, and let those combatants solve their own problems, which we don't understand ...

Post-Taliban, FA involvement in the M.E. now seems promoted by two camps: those thinking it is a pragmatic necessity to protect the US (oil, commerce, the US 'way of life'), and those thinking it necessary to protect others (Israel, SA, etc.)

JP Morgan, a famous pragmatist, said "a man does something for two reasons: a good reason, and the real reson"

But then there's the third option - don't get involved, just supply food aid and UN support. That doesn't fit most agendas when tax dollars are burning a hole in your pocket, I guess. If we didn't have such a high tax rate on GDP, we wouldn't be paying trillions to millions in the political and military sphere to play these games, imo.

Lately, those funds look better used to protect bridges & the rest of the $1/2 Trillion in 'infrastructure hardening'. The Saudis haven't offered to pay for it, and no one else has the money.



To: FaultLine who wrote (8638)11/2/2001 4:53:09 PM
From: Seeker of Truth  Respond to of 281500
 
No,no. We don't need oil. We can hydrogenate coal and get all the fuel we need. The process is 85 years old. It works.