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To: HG who wrote (394)11/5/2001 1:47:21 PM
From: Sultan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2926
 
I think you cannot ignore the culture, politics, education, prosperity and society in general when you are looking at the question of tolerance..

Muslims in say India or most of part of India or Pakistan, who are economically well off, well educated will have a totally different outlook then thousand of armed tribes man who keep popping up on CNN and ready to march off to their doom.. For these folks, ethnic composition, history etc. are totally different and although the slogans may be couched in religious terms, you have to know the tribal history and past skirmishes to know that this has nothing to do with religion.. But that message would be too complex to impart on the TV.. No question there are folks in the mix who probably believe in some cause or the other.. FWIW..



To: HG who wrote (394)11/6/2001 7:01:36 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2926
 
The softer side of Islam...


Tuesday November 6 8:56 AM ET

Women to Be Allowed Into Iran-Ireland Playoff

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Women will be allowed to watch Iran's World Cup playoff against Ireland next week from inside the stadium for the first time since the 1979 Islamic revolution -- but only if they are Irish.

Women are banned from Iranian soccer stadiums to protect them from the bad language and rude gestures of male fans and crowd noise is turned down to a minimum during live television coverage to ensure women viewers at home are not offended.

``About 300 Irish women fans visiting Iran, will be able to enter the stadium, but Iranian women are not allowed,'' an Iran soccer federation spokesman told Reuters Monday.

``The Irish do not speak Farsi, so they will not understand the bad language which most of the Iranian men use during the matches.''

Iranian women, many of them ardent soccer supporters, are unhappy about having to miss the chance to watch the second leg match, in Tehran on November 15, from the stands. The first leg takes place in Dublin Saturday.

``I hate this double standard. What is the difference between me and an Irish woman who can watch the game and support her national team. We should be allowed as well,'' said Azita, a 20-year-old Iranian woman supporter.

Iranian women were beaten and turned away from a playoff against Australia for the 1998 World Cup, which Iran won to qualify for the last finals.

The matches will be the first between Iran and Ireland since the two met in an invitational tournament in Brazil in 1972. Ireland won that game 2-1.

About 1,000 Irish supporters are expected to travel to Iran for the second leg of the playoffs.

dailynews.yahoo.com