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To: Ibexx who wrote (3308)11/5/2001 10:13:26 PM
From: LTK007  Respond to of 99280
 
yes i feel Sivy's summation is pretty fair<The risk is that bad war news or an unexpectedly bad recession sends the Nasdaq back down to retest its lows, a decline of more than 20 percent. On balance, the odds favor the positive scenario. But the likely gains are not as big as one might think -- and the risks are not trivial. My conclusion is that investors should now be buying tech on the assumption that the worst is past. But I don't see any reason to hurry or to overpay. There's still plenty of quagmire to slog through.> The 'in bold face' i just do to point out Sivy has put in a lot of wiggle room:) Max



To: Ibexx who wrote (3308)11/6/2001 6:27:37 AM
From: Softechie  Respond to of 99280
 
Cisco Systems (CSCO) 18.67 +0.77: For the period ending Oct. 27, Cisco reported pro forma net income of $332 mln, or $0.04 per share, two cents ahead of the consensus estimate. The company outdid itself on the sales front, too, posting net sales of $4.4 bln that exceeded the consensus estimate of $4.17 bln and represented a 3% sequential increase. The latter achievement was particularly noteworthy-- even to Cisco which noted in its press release that industry peers, on average, reported sequential revenue decreases in the high teens. Armed with that understanding, and an awareness that Cisco enjoyed good order linearity and was able to gain market share profitably, investors were quick to bid up Cisco's stock price ahead of the ensuing conference call. On that call, Cisco offered a characteristically detailed analysis of the just-completed quarter and provided some insight on its outlook for fiscal Q2. With respect to the former, some of the sequential highlights included a $383 mln decline in net inventories, a 7-day drop in DSOs to 24, inventory turns increasing to 5.5 from 4.6, deferred revenue jumping to $3.5 bln from $3.2 bln, operating expenses being cut by 5%, and gross margins improving to 54% from 52.3%. One other item certainly worth mentioning is that more than half of Cisco's quarterly gain was due to interest and other income-- a telling reminder that the overall operating environment remains weak. Thus far, investors don't appear to be too unnerved by that point as Cisco's headline numbers more than satisfied the masses. The same can be said for its fiscal Q2 guidance. After making repeated disclaimers about its limited visibility, Cisco provided the following guidance: flat to low single-digit sequential increase in revenue, gross margins to remain in the mid-50% range, operating expenses flat to down slightly, other income and expenses approximately flat, a tax rate of 28%, and a 60-80 mln increase in its share count. Using those assumptions, Briefing.com came up with an EPS estimate of $0.05 per share in our model after factoring a 2.5% increase in revenue, a 1% decline in operating expenses, and a share count increase of 70 mln. The current consensus estimate is $0.03. Plenty of room for improvement remains for Cisco but at least it has been able to provide the market with a reassuring sense that its business has stabilized, which is more than we can say for many of its competitors (JNPR being an exception). Clearly, Cisco displayed the strength of its brand in the enterprise market, but the big ugly question hanging over its stock now is one of valuation.-- Patrick J. O'Hare, Briefing.com



To: Ibexx who wrote (3308)11/6/2001 8:29:58 AM
From: JRI  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 99280
 
<Cisco article> Ibexx, I found the article you posted to be a fairly shallow view of what's going on w/Csco...for example, Csco beat revenue estimates by 200m or so (and remember, these revenue estimates were constantly revised DOWNWARD by the company over quarter...and were down over 30% from previous year)...but their deferred revenue fell by 400m! One could easily argue that they are borrowing from future to make today's number....

One could also look at inventory issues, and ludicrous treatment of write-off of bad investments (Csco been trying to do this without hitting income line..)..but the bottom line is here Csco is playing w/balance sheet and statements to make their numbers, and create an appearance of a turnaround..while the evidence is rather scant that one is in place..And even if Csco were to show some sequential growth going forward (which Chambers is reluctant to state), the stock is overpriced by almost every measure.

Most financial journalists, apparently, can't read a balance sheet, or look at the only the most obvious of indicators (like P/E) to decide their spin on a piece..

What I will grant you: The market may perceive or spin this (w/help of analysts who houses likely still own tons of Csco stock) in a positive way, and that can always lead to a price bump. IMO, Csco deteriorating balance sheet, and historic outrageous simple price multiples are a better indication of where this stock is eventually going (and the market, for that matter).

Thanks for the piece, and your thoughts. good luck.