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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (8244)	11/8/2001 7:14:11 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

It is that Zionist movement, begun in the 1880s, that spawned much of the persecution stories, as a justification to do onto others what others are not permitted to do elsewhere. Are you now repeating Arafat's line that the Holocaust is a fiction invented by the Zionists for political purposes? Or do you, unlike Arafat, retain at least some respect for historical facts? If you came into my neighborhood and had the Police powers establish a Christian State, you would be surrounded by enemies as well. They came, bought land, reclaimed wasteland, and attracted a large Arab immigration (the Arab population of Palestine grew five-fold between 1880 and 1948). Most of the Arabs would have lived peacefully with the Jews; but the Nazi Mufti of Jerusalem's power was threatened and he needed war. So the terrorist campaigns began. Also the charming Palestinian custom of shooting moderates as collaborators.

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (8244)	11/9/2001 10:27:39 AM
From: Andy Thomas	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

--If you came into my neighborhood -- the problem there is with 'my.' the jews definitely have a history of their own in the middle east. jerusalem is islam's 3rd most holy city. it is the #1 holy city of the jews. so whose neighborhood is it? i like my 51st state idea... from the nile to the euphrates. everyone would work in the petroleum industry and own shares in the oil companies. then the land between the tigris and euphrates could be put back to work and there would be farm jobs too. everyone would have to learn to speak english though... as it is, the whole thing is for the most part just plain sad. andy