To: SBHX who wrote (79660 ) 11/9/2001 12:45:42 PM From: Dave Respond to of 93625 Scared,Not being a lawyer and not having even done the due dilligence of reading those patents, all I say is speculation, but the jury did draw a conclusion of fraud, I also recall that rmbs' testimony on the fraud portion of the trial was extremely damaging to the company --- even croakerfrog in yahoo has admitted this point. As I recall, the case never made it to a jury. Judge Payne ruled that Rambus committed fraud. Ok, so be it. All this ruling has done is set a precedent. And, whenever a party amends claims during the examination of a patent application and that assignee sits on a standards body, the claim amendments will be in question.... Yes, Judge Payne did rule that Rambus committed fraud. However, it is not as bad as We could talk about whether IFX lawyers conceded that the patent with multiplex bus was in contention (they did) or whether they conceded the point on all bus (who knows, I wasn't there), but we won't get anywhere fast that way and neither of us will enjoy the journey. <g>. Infineon never alledged that the patents were invalid. They maintained that they were not infringing upon them given their narrow interpretation of "bus".This is a monopoly on the specific technology invented. However, when it becomes a standard and then to come after the fact when huge sums have already been invested in manufacturing to produce the products in the standard, then it becomes an absolute monopoly in the industry, where there is no choice but to pay. You seem to not like what Rambus charges. Well, the standard could always change. Corporations could choose not to make DRAM that might infringe upon the patent(s) in question. A corporation does not have to fab DRAM. They can go into another business.