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To: Uncle Frank who wrote (48756)11/9/2001 4:23:02 PM
From: Pirah Naman  Respond to of 54805
 
uf:

'm dismayed at how many subjective judgements needed to be made to
arrive at your estimate of fcs. It leads me to fear that the results of any
such calculation may be more of a reflection on the analyst's investing
biases than statement of fact.


What you are seeing here is not so much analyst subjectivity, but the
result of liberties companies have taken in arranging their records. Below
I will give you a simplified method that will capture the essence.

As such, it may be more reasonable to rely on top line growth and
gross product margins, which are not nearly as murky as earnings, as
metrics.


Gross product margins are still murky, as they do not account for
maintenance expenses - just operating.

Anyway, here is how I suggest that start as you pursue your new passion:

Cash Flow Statement

Under Operating Activities, take Income from Operations
and Depreciation and Amortization. Add them together. Call it X.

Under Financing Activities, take Investments in Property,
Plant, and Equipment
Add them together. Call it Y.

You now have two numbers. The difference between the two of them is the
number you seek. X-Y is your operational FCF. Yes, you can get more
sophisticated, but keep it simple for now.

I will now take QCOM's last annual report and will bold the lines you seek.

OPERATING ACTIVITIES:
Net income $670,211 $ 200,879 $ 108,532
Depreciation and amortization 243,842 158,429 141,892
Purchased in-process technology 60,030 - 6,976
Restructuring, impairments and other non-cash charges and credits 88,953 269,449 25,000
Gain on sale of available-for-sale securities (270,132) (5,663) -
Minority interest in income of consolidated subsidiaries 6,264 13,066 48,366
Equity in losses of investees 15,117 15,140 20,731
Non-cash income tax provision (benefit) 481,621 (96,595) (55,581)
Increase (decrease) in cash resulting from changes in:
Accounts receivable, net 233,281 (275,846) (166,827)
Finance receivables, net (372,072) (304,546) (232,451)
Inventories, net (68,776) 40,102 (161,380)
Other current assets (21,507) (7,048) (66,603)
Trade accounts payable (164,756) (5,826) 100,706
Accrued liabilities (99,976) 179,633 174,113
Unearned revenue 10,012 (10,495) 22,039
Other liabilities - 11,554 9,820
------------- ----------------- ------------
Net cash provided (used) by operating activities 812,112 182,233 (24,667)
------------- ----------------- ------------
INVESTING ACTIVITIES:
Capital expenditures (163,182) (180,237) (321,566)
Purchases of available-for-sale securities (993,512) - -
Proceeds from sale of available-for-sale securities 571,492 7,163 -

<snip>

Really, start there. What you are really doing here is adding back in a
non-cash charge and taking a cash charge that earnings doesn't account
for at all. This gives you a reasonably accurate of true profits. And it's
fast - three lines. Later on you can evaluate other lines if you wish.

There is also a way to engineer this from the balance sheet, but let's wait
on that.

- Pirah



To: Uncle Frank who wrote (48756)11/9/2001 8:45:53 PM
From: Stock Farmer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 54805
 
You are dismayed at the degree of subjective judgements?

You who would profess to play the Gorilla Game would be dismayed at *this* level of subjectivity? Oh dear. Sorry to hear that.

But in your dismay of this degree of subjectivity you would then like to look at gross margins as some way to estimate real profits? LOL... can't you at least put a few posts in between inconsistencies?

In case you didn't know it, those lines are as subject to manipulation as any other line in the already highly subjective earnings statement. Maybe you missed the discussion a few months back on the Cisco thread about how Cisco was boosting gross margins by stocking up on inventory... first brought up almost three quarters *before* the inventory write down.

Or maybe you missed the footnotes in the 10K of a darling that will go nameless where licensing revenues are booked for companies in which an investment is being taken ("look ma, no cash changes hands"), and then written off... Sure. Be my guest and measure profitability on this degree of "objective" basis.

Sorry, but I prefer free cash flow coupled with analysis of the balance sheet for a reason. Not just because I'm biased toward's "value" investing, but also because I understand what the stuff printed there actually means.

Suffering from frustration? Sees window of opportunity closing? LOL... you couldn't be more incorrect. It's silly of you to pretend that you know what's going on inside someone else's head. As if you are even qualified.

I am hardly frustrated. More amused and a bit puzzled. Even contemplating shorting stocks for the first time in my life. If I wasn't so convinced in the ability of the market to remain irrational and my inability to read short term trends... well then I might just have taken action.

Window of opportunity closing? Yup. Window for profitable long positions closed in '97-'98. Got it, thanks. Window for excessive profits closed in '00. Went through there too. The only window that's open now is one of a series of fleece 'em windows necessary to prolong the market's return to normal levels (otherwise it would have to be called a collapse). But I'm not going through.

John.