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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (8295)11/9/2001 2:49:55 PM
From: Elmer Flugum  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23908
 
Zionists are equally, embellishers.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (8295)11/10/2001 3:13:00 PM
From: Thomas M.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23908
 
How about the Chelmnicki pogroms

Yes, how about them . . .

<<< "Perhaps the most outstanding example is the great massacre of Jews during the Chmielnicki revolt in the Ukraine (1648), which started out as a mutiny of Cossack officers but soon turned into a widespread popular movement of the oppressed serfs: 'The underpriviliged, the subjects, the Ukrainians, the Orthodox [persecuted by the Polish Catholic church] were rising against their Catholic Polish masters, particularly against their masters' bailiffs, clergy and Jews.' (John Stoye, Europe Unfolding 1648-88) This typical peasant uprising against extreme oppression, an uprising accompanied not only by massacres committed by the rebels but also by even more horrible atrocities and 'counter-terror' of the Polish magnates' private armies, has remained emblazoned in the consciousness of east-European Jews to this very day--not, however, as a peasant uprising, a revolt of the oppressed, of the real wretched of the earth, nor even as vengeance visited upon all the servants of the Polish nobility, but as an act of gratuitous antisemitism directed against Jews as such. In fact, the voting of the Ukrainian delegation at the UN and, more generally, Soviet policies on the Middle East, are often 'explained' in the Israeli press as 'a heritage of Chmielnicki' or his 'descendants'." >>>

columbia.edu

Tom



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (8295)8/20/2008 11:35:41 AM
From: Thomas M.  Respond to of 23908
 
What the Talmud Really Says About Jesus

by David Klinghoffer

publishersweekly.com

"What exactly is so scandalous? How about Jesus punished in Hell for eternity by being made to sit in a cauldron of boiling excrement? That image appears in early manuscripts of the Babylonian Talmud, as does a brief account of Jesus' trial and execution—not by the Romans but by the Jewish high court, the Sanhedrin. The Jewish community, to the extent Jews were even aware of these excised texts, has been content to let them remain obscure and unknown."

R.I.P. Israel Shahak, the first person brave enough to write about this in a Gentile language.

Tom



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (8295)8/20/2008 11:43:36 AM
From: Thomas M.  Respond to of 23908
 
"The Israeli national bus cooperative, Egged, opened a second gender-segregated bus line in Jerusalem earlier this year after ultra-Orthodox Jews shut down streets demonstrating for more segregated buses."

ajc.com