To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (134533 ) 11/10/2001 8:37:46 PM From: craig crawford Respond to of 164684 >> about what issue? << you failed to address any of the points in the post you were responding to. you rambled on about buchanan and licking my wounds or something. >> you are wrong about immigration b/c some immigration helps america << i never claimed otherwise. >> you are wrong about sovereignty (so far) b/c america benefits from some level of working with other nations << you are wrong because you fail to grasp the concept of sovereignty in the first place. you can work with other nations without surrendering sovereignty. i've told you this numerous times but it just doesn't seem to register. >> you are wrong that take, take, take is the way to go. you have to give some back, too. << once again you fail to grasp the concept of sovereignty. you assume that for us to retain our sovereignty we must trample on another's. back to the drawing boards! >> you are wrong about a world military govt b/c it ain't gonna happen. impossible. logistics, economics, etc... << the only refutation you have offered is: "i will believe it when i see it. so far i'm not worried!" that is hardly support for your assertion. >> you are wrong to attack people instead of discuss ideas. << that would depend on my goal now wouldn't it? if i was attempting to persuade you to see it my way, it is probably not the best tact. if i just wanna argue with you it seems to work just fine! >> you are wrong to ignore questions you don't want to answer. << let's have 'em. what questions have i failed to answer? >> enough yet? << nope! bring it on! >> you are right to keep an eye on the govt and sovereignty issues, however. it could become a problem down the road. << you are wrong because it has already become a problem. maybe you don't recognize the problem yet or it hasn't affected you personally so you don't care, but you are mistaken if you believe there are no harmful consequences to the sacrifice of our sovereignty. >> the difference between you and i is that i know we can disagree and still be good americans << ok, so tell me what exactly does it take to be a bad american? is there such a thing? >> i am not so pompous as to think everyone ought to think like me or they are *&*^%&*^%^%^*#$#@@@ing *&*&^%%$$^&^&&&**#@#@#$$$s. << no, but maybe you are so self-righteous that you think that no one has a right to differentiate between right and wrong. >> maybe i'm just secure in my beliefs so i don't feel the need to attack people w/ differing views. << perhaps you believe in moral relativism where every belief is neither right or wrong; therefore might should make right.