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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (36609)	11/10/2001 10:16:23 PM
From: Michael M	Respond to of 82486

How I feel is not the issue. I simply recognized the simple logic of the Pope regarding ALL human life as sacred and worthy of protection -- from that point of view, how the life was created is irrelevant. I did not say that was my point of view. If you or E or Steven want to call the Pope evil, that's your right. Enjoy.

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (36609)	11/11/2001 9:24:28 AM
From: J. C. Dithers	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

The Roman Catholic Church should be respected for its uncompromising stands on what is right and what is wrong. All of the religions that splintered off from Catholicism did so because they could not, would not, accept some certain teaching of the RC Church. You have to admire a church that stands for principle, whether or not it is popular with the times or supported by the majority of members. The Catholic Church simply condemns the killing of innocents, and accepts no rationales for justifying it under any circumstances. It is an important distinction that the Church condemns the act of abortion, and does not condemn the person choosing that option. Indeed, the Church provides extensive, compassionate counseling for women who have had abortions. We all choose at times to do things we know are morally wrong, for a variety of reasons. However, we have no right to demand that the Catholic Church or any other institution abandon its principles of right and wrong simply to relieve us of responsibility for the choices we make. Don't we admire individuals who stand up for principles they believe in, and refuse to compromise or bow to the pressure of popular opinion? Would anyone argue with the morality of the principle of not killing innocents?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (36609)	11/15/2001 6:27:04 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Do YOU honestly believe that God intends to bring new human beings into the world in this fashion- -as a result of violent, forcible rape? If your wife or sister were the victim, how would you feel? And think about it; don't give me a flippant, doctrinaire answer. You might consider this answer flippant or doctrinaire but it is not. A new human already has been brought in to the world. I recognize that you and many other people do not agree with me on this buy IMO killing the new human is the evil act not arguing that he or she should not be killed. I am not married but it my sister was pregnant from a rape it would not change my mind on this. If I did not see an unborn child as a new human being then I would not need the extra sympathy I would have for my sister to say abortion should be allowed. Since I do see a fetus as a new human being the extra sympathy would not cause me to change my mind. Just as it would be my sister that faced an unwanted pregnancy it would be my niece or nephew that could face death. Tim