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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (8490)	11/11/2001 4:55:06 PM
From: Yaacov	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Well Gus, i was a little put-off by the term Judeo-Facists, for it condemned jews in toto, i would have been more comfortable with Zionist-Facists. "" You and Gus are brothers?

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (8490)	11/12/2001 4:26:39 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Re: Well Gus, i was a little put-off by the term Judeo-Facists, for it condemned jews in toto, i would have been more comfortable with Zionist-Facists. Well, we've got the same problem with many other catch-all phrases... Take colonialism: when branded as a disparaging ideology that fostered slavery, cultural oppression, racism, etc., does it mean that ALL colonists were despicable thugs who've achieved nothing good for the benefit of their colonies? Likewise, when I use the term Judeofascism, I'm not as much referring to the Jews proper as to the Judeo-Christian ideology... Here's an interesting paper on the subject: The rise and fall of the term 'Judeo-Christian' By James D. Davidson I'm willing to bet that you have heard, read or used the term "Judeo-Christian" many times in the course of your life. I'm also willing to bet that, without giving it much thought, you have assumed the term is deeply rooted in centuries of Jewish and Christian theology delineating the core beliefs that unite these two religious traditions. Well, you're wrong. [...] Catholic scholars either shied away from the term or used it in a very qualified manner. For example, Jesuit theologian John Courtney Murray, one of the church's most respected thinkers during the 1950s and '60s, stressed the idea that Catholicism, Protestantism and Judaism are "radically different" and that none of them "is reducible, or perhaps even comparable, to any of the others." Despite these opposing views, the concept of a Judeo-Christian tradition gained in popularity. What else was contributing to its popularity? Silk argues that, more than anything else, it was America's opposition to fascism that led to the term's popularity. In Silk's words, "Fascist fellow-travelers and anti-Semites had appropriated 'Christian' as an identifying mark; besides Father Coughlin's Christian Front, there were such organizations as the Christian American Crusade, Christian Aryan Syndicate, Christian Mobilizers and Christian Party, and publications like the Christian Defender and Christian Free Press. 'Judeo-Christian' thus became a catchword for the other side." [snip] the-tidings.com I for one don't agree with the above assumption that the Judeo-Christian ideology is immune to Fascistic tendencies. Because the (European) Jews were the prime targets of Nazi Germany and their fascist allies 60 years ago, the politically correct opinion today is to call it a heresy when someone dare describe Israel or Zionism as just another fascist brand...

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (8490)	11/12/2001 5:51:45 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 23908

Re: I have a difficult time thinking that the former Soviet Union is capable of doing anything right in the short term, unless they are funded and serve as a front for Western capitalists who are pulling the strings. Just as Western capitalists were pulling the strings in Weimar Germany in the 1920s and 1930s... For the European bourgeoisie --and their US counterpart (Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh,...)-- the real threat to Europe's prosperity was not Hitler and the Nazis but Stalin and the Bolsheviks. And, despite Germany's relentless rearmament, in 1940, France and Britain still had a military edge over Germany --the German assault on France in 1940 could have been foiled, were it not for Europe's surrender to the fascist spellbinder... Likewise, today's European ruling elites don't apprehend Russia's growing assertiveness and overlook Russia's blatant atrocities in Chechnya because Islam is their real bogey. And just as Hitler was expected to repel the Communist threat from Europe, Putin is expected to prevent Islam from invading the Caucasus, the Balkans, and, ultimately, Europe. Gus