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To: Gopher Broke who wrote (63433)	11/11/2001 6:46:21 PM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 275872

Re: Have most companies now switched over to P4? I think many have - they had no choice, really. Intel has discontinued PIII, and their tactics of extortion have (so far) been successful in keeping any tier one or two OEMs from offering a "corporate" Athlon. Businesses have no choice but to buy P4 or go white box - and some have started to go white box. Judging by present pricing, to force this transition Intel has had to lower their ASPs on "corporate" parts from $100-$1,000 to $50-$400. When you want to make someone buy something they don't really want, you have to really, really, cut the price. An Athlon XP1800 is now selling for nearly as much as a P41800 (despite the Athlon's lower actual MHz) - buyers want Athlons, they're becoming more and more disenchanted with Intel. Remember when Intel chips always sold for about twice what the equivalent AMD chip was selling for? XP1800 (1.5GHZ) $194 on pricewatch P41800 (1.8GHZ) $209 on pricewatch P41500 (1.5GHZ) $144 on pricewatch And the reason, of course, is that the Athlon outperforms the P4 while running cooler and uses less power: aceshardware.com But Intel is selling P4s to corporations, at a low cost to the corporations and a high cost to Intel.