To: Dan3 who wrote (147486 ) 11/12/2001 11:07:50 AM From: wanna_bmw Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894 Dan, Re: "Any concerns about all the SDRAM P4s with high "Intel MHZ" on the market?" Yes I do. But on the other hand, Intel isn't pushing performance with the SDRAM Pentium 4. They are pushing a Pentium 4 system with lower cost, lower performance memory. How their marketing does that is beyond me (they are that good). Meanwhile, AMD is pushing nothing but performance with their model numbers. They want buyers to see that despite lower megahertz, their CPUs offer the highest performance. That means that AMD has more to live up to. At the point when Hammer gets introduced, Intel will have DDR266 pretty ubiquitous in the market, with the possibility of DDR333, too. I would think that these technologies can get close to the performance that one would expect from a competing processor, and if the person ever wants more performance, there's always RDRAM. Re: "You can go to Best Buy, and pick up a $1,500 P4 1.7GHZ that is considerably slower than the $1,000 Celeron 1.2GHZ or Athlon 1.3GHZ systems sitting alongside it." That depends. That 1.3GHz Athlon doesn't happen to use the 200MHz FSB and PC133 SDRAM, does it? I see one advertised in this week's Best Buy flier for $1049, and it does use the slower memory and front side bus. With this kind of low end Athlon system, my guess is that the Pentium 4 1.7GHz SDRAM system might even outperform it. According to the flier, the Pentium 4 system also has a DVD drive, 4x the memory, and twice the hard disk space, not to mention a better video card (the Athlon has integrated Savage4 graphics). Often times, once you add everything up, the value of these computers gets closer than you might think. In this case, you are paying more for more. Whether it's worth another $450 or not, well, Intel has always been able to sell with these kinds of premiums before. wanna_bmw