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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (8583)	11/13/2001 6:14:49 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

Well, len, every time I have some hope for you, you revert to the old 'if the Zionists do it it must be worse' line. So any Zionist exaggeration, no matter how small, is worse than any Palestinian lie, no matter how big. Thus, "Nazis made soap out of Jews", a very small exaggeration indeed, caused by a) the fact that they really did make lampshades out the Jews, and b) the initials RFP were on the soap, is held to be equivalent to Arafat's statement "There was never a Jewish temple on the Temple Mount." Saying that there are no Jewish antiquities in Jerusalem is a lie, len. You do admit that were Jews in Judea in Roman times, don't you? Then you agree that Arafat is lying? It's hardly an equivalent lie to say "the Nazis made soap" when in fact only technical difficulties stopped them from doing so? Why do you take refuge in the fact that you have seen people say "King David founded Jerusalem" on SI. We have all seen vast amounts of tripe on SI. This has nothing to do with the Zionists, or what Christians do or don't know. Stop dragging in total irrelevancies. Palestinians are descended from the original Canaanite and Philistine inhabitants of Palestine. More so then European Jews. Modern genetic studies show how genetically similar the Palestinian Arabs are the Israelis, len, and they don't show a difference between the Sephardim and the Ashkenazim. So what's true for one group is equally true for the other. In 1921, a nationalist movement is started by Haj Muhammed Amin-al-Husssein, who was Mufti of Jerusalem and President of Supreme Moslem Council. One of his goals was the sovereignty of Palestine and the end of the British mandate policy of immigration and a Jewish state. there were riots in Jerusalem, Jaffra, and at the Western Wall. It may have been the goal of the Mufti's terrorist movement to build a Palestinian nationalism along fascist lines, but he utterly failed to instill the idea among most Palestinians or build the makings of a state. That's why he wound up spending the WWII years in Berlin with his good buddy Adolf. That's also why the whole "effendi class", as the British called them, ran off in 1947/48 rather than stay and fight. So okay, somebody had the idea of an Arab Palestine. It just wasn't a widespread idea. The Arab refugees from Palestine were politically disorganized and remained so for a long time.