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To: Thomas Mercer-Hursh who wrote (48859)	11/16/2001 8:14:15 PM
From: Eric L	Respond to of 54805

re: QCOM - BREW and it's 3GSM counterpart. << I'm not going to pretend this is my area of expertise ... how about one of you in the know folks clarify something for me? >> You better believe it's most certainly not my area of expertise either, and consequently I'm sure I'm not going to clarify anything, but I'll comment anyway. Maybe my comments will drag out them "in the know folks". << My read of the announcement ... classic wafflegab that it was ... >> "wafflegab" might be an appropriate term at this point in time, but rest assured, you are not going to see the strategy and detail of the whole 3GSM global mobile open software collaborative initiative laid out in press releases or "announcements". I think that the announcement of the collaborative effort of Sony and Nokia (acting for themselves and others), made by Sony at Comdex, is the one that will potentially result in a middleware platform somewhat analogous to BREW. It is a piece of the larger global mobile open software initiative that Jorma Ollila sketched later at Comdex. The Sony announcement made by Kunitake Ando, President and COO of Sony Corporation is here: biz.yahoo.com Nokia and Sony Corporation today announced that they have started cooperation on developing an open and common middleware platform with the target of achieving interoperability between mobile handsets and consumer devices, and between their respective service platforms. ... The collaboration will cover technical areas such as new user interfaces, content downloading, multimedia messaging, open digital rights management, and compatibility on implementing IPv6. << My read of the announcement ... made me think that they were describing a set of standard APIs and/or functionality, not the implementation. >> I don't thin so. They were describing a middleware platform, an "implementation" if you will, and it's not strictly vaporware because the prototype exists, is probably being used commercially in it's proprietary form, and is being (has already been, or components of same have been) licensed by Nokia to Samsung, and a Sony equivalent may also exist. << So, why is it that you think BREW, which seems to me implementation technology, is necessarily competitive and/or excluded? >> I think you properly describe BREW as implementation technology, but then again I also think that terminology could also be used to describe the 3GSM middleware platform we are discussing. << Is it not possible that these APIs could be implemented in BREW? >> If we were talking about a standard set of APIs the could be, but then again I don't think we are. << Or, if not, what is it that they are going to be implemented in? >> The middleware platform that Nokia and Sony are collaborating on. << I didn't see Java mentioned either? >> Java was mentioned in the initial press release published by Nokia and individually by each of the other 13 partners). It was also mentioned in the Reuters, AP, WirelessNewsfactor, and Wireless Week initial coverage of Jorma's keynote at Comdex and of course Jorma mentioned it prominently in that keynote. It was prominent in the press releases of DoCoMo and Nokia again at their joint conference: biz.yahoo.com In one of the better articles I've read on the initiative - there have been few good ones yet - Bob Brewin of "Computerworld" made some very interesting comments on the Microsoft exclusion and also included comments on Java. computerworld.com Earlier in this post, I made some comments about the 3GSM middleware platform. I think that this platform has it's European roots in an ITEA project called VIVIAN. More on VIVIAN here if anyone is interested (warning - long and potentially boring to most): Message 16670740 - Eric -