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To: milo_morai who wrote (63666)11/14/2001 2:02:32 AM
From: peter_lucRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Milo,

"New Drivers Athlon 1900+ 25+% faster then P4 at 2.0ghz."

Wow!!! And this in Quake 3... (Athlon XP 1900+: 263.9, Pentium 4 2000: 208.6)

Now let us see what speed improvement the P4 will get from the new drivers, but it is very impressive anyway.

After all, a very nice article with quite a lot of interesting benchmarks.

Peter



To: milo_morai who wrote (63666)11/14/2001 4:50:25 AM
From: Gopher BrokeRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
The Athlon XP 1900+ seems to be dominating once again, but two facts serve to explain its superior results.

First, the video drivers that were used to test the Athlon XP 1900+ were the most recent, v2183 WHQL drivers from Nvidia, while the other systems were using slightly older drivers.

Second, the Athlon XP 1900+ was tested on a motherboard using the newer KT266A chipset, which is reputed to take better advantage of the AMD Athlon than any previous platform.

The long and the short of it is, that if we remove these advantages from the XP 1900+'s score, we would likely end-up with scores lying in the vicinity of 215 to 225 FPS.


Let me try and understand. If you use slower hardware and software the benchmarks will run slower. Who would have thought it.

Why are these reviews always trying to talk down the Athlon's outstanding performance? It is not like they were using Beta hardware or software. The results are what most people will see when buying an Athlon system, which is more than can be said for those RDRAM equipped P4 systems.



To: milo_morai who wrote (63666)11/14/2001 9:04:14 AM
From: rsi_boyRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
You have to admit, that's a pretty flaky benchmark. You can't compare results using two different video drivers. For all we know, the Pentium 4 would have achieved equal or greater boost from the same optimizated driver + moderate overclocking.

The only interesting thing it shows is that Athlons are still limited by fsb. 333 can't come too soon.



To: milo_morai who wrote (63666)11/14/2001 10:36:16 AM
From: chuckles58Respond to of 275872
 
New radio ad for Athlon XP

On my way home last night, I heard a local Dallas screwdriver shop (IMS Computers) advertising systems with Athlon XP 1800+ processors. They called themselves something like "your AMD headquarters." (I know, the Bees will say it is rented)<ggg> The radio spot played on a 50000 watt station (820 AM) in the 8:00 CT hour. It sounded like AMD provided them with the copy for the ad. They emphasized the benefits of Windows XP on an AMD processor, multitasking, multimedia and especially speed. Sounded pretty good. Keep your ears out. I'll watch the Dallas newspaper for ads by them.

CB



To: milo_morai who wrote (63666)11/14/2001 10:48:05 AM
From: WindsockRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
The QDI P2D-A will begin shipping worldwide in December -- one month earlier than Intel's previously announced plans to release the chip during the first quarter

SWEET !!!


www2.infoworld.com

November 13, 2001 07:21 PM

COMDEX - Intel's DDR chip set debuts
By Sumner Lemon

OPENING THE DOORS to cheaper and faster PCs based on Intel's Pentium 4 processor, the long-awaited version of Intel's 845 chip set that supports DDR SDRAM (Double Data Rate Synchronous Dynamic RAM), the 845-D, debuted at Comdex.

Legend QDI, which is a subsidiary of Legend Holdings, China's largest PC manufacturer, demonstrated its QDI P2D-A motherboard, which is based on the 845-D, at its booth here. The standard ATX motherboard, which can support Pentium 4 chips running at speeds up to 2GHz and above, was shown in a demonstration running a 1.6GHz Pentium 4 processor with 128M bytes of DDR SDRAM.

The QDI P2D-A will begin shipping worldwide in December -- one month earlier than Intel's previously announced plans to release the chip during the first quarter -- and is expected to cost around US$140, said Wang Huabing, senior manager for system research and development at Legend's commercial desktop PC business division.

Chip sets provide the interface that connects a PC's processor with its main memory. Intel currently offers two chip sets for the Pentium 4, the 850 and the 845. The 850 supports RDRAM (Rambus DRAM) and the existing version of the 845 supports SDRAM, which is cheaper than RDRAM but is also considered slower.

The release of the 845-D will allow PC manufacturers to sell Pentium 4-based computers that use DDR SDRAM, which is faster than SDRAM. DDR SDRAM is comparable in performance to RDRAM but costs less.

Sumner Lemon is an Asian correspondent for the IDG News Service, an InfoWorld affiliate.