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To: Walkingshadow who wrote (202534)	11/14/2001 12:02:11 PM
From: Srexley	Respond to of 769670

"Air power certainly assisted, and did a better job than usual as well" Well, that's a bit better sir. It is quite a contrast from your statement yesterday: "Bombing just does not strike fear and terror, but tends to habituate the bomb-ees, and DECREASE fear. They get used to it. Worse, it strengthens resolve, pisses them off, galvanizes them, makes them increasingly willing to endure more and more hardship. In short, it not only doesn't destroy them, rather it tends to make them an even more formidable enemy" Nice 180 degree turn. I like your new position, and glad that you do listen to reason. You do see the difference in "Air power certainly assisted" and "it tends to make them an even more formidable enemy", right? I agree with the 1st, and not with the latter.

To: Walkingshadow who wrote (202534)	11/14/2001 12:54:17 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

yes and what you don't know is that the 25,000 smart bombs took out 95& of all the armor. What killed the Iraqi army was the inability to communicate and the systematic damage done to every unit. They were leaderless sitting ducks when the ground assault occurred. The Iraqi and the Taliban have a chain of command. When the ground forces appear and no-one higher up is giving any orders because they cannot, the low level grunt assumes the worst and still having ringing ears go to panic real quick. This is what happened in the Gulf War and what happened to the tallies. You wish to believe the all the elements of smart and dumb bombs did not win the war, well that's your opinion. But my opinion is the bombing created an environment that changed a traditional battle into a wandering mob sweep up activity. You obviously have very little understanding of the military science and the art of fighting a war of defense or offense. I don't consider myself an expert, but I read all sorts of books are all topics of systems engineering. The military has the most complex systems engineering requirements and the OOB is extremely complex, but your analysis tells me you only see superficial connections that miss entirely what is really happening. tom watson tosiwmee