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To: Charles Gryba who wrote (148026)	11/14/2001 9:30:38 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

they barely hit 1 Ghz with aluminum P3 parts which have similar stage count to the Athlon ( which also got to around 1-1.1 Ghz with Aluminum ). Let's not confuse any newbie lurkers out there. Let's be clear so as not to confuse newbies here. P3 hit 1.1GHz on aluminum. EP

To: Charles Gryba who wrote (148026)	11/14/2001 11:11:42 AM
From: fingolfen	Respond to of 186894

No Paul, they barely hit 1 Ghz with aluminum P3 parts which have similar stage count to the Athlon ( which also got to around 1-1.1 Ghz with Aluminum ). Let's not confuse any newbie lurkers out there. Stage count is never the whole story for frequency, but you must also consider that to get the very high speeds AMD is using now they're not using a true 0.18 micron process. Their gates are running 70nm, which is the industry target spec for 0.13 micron.

To: Charles Gryba who wrote (148026)	11/14/2001 11:21:08 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Constantine, <they barely hit 1 Ghz with aluminum P3 parts which have similar stage count to the Athlon> Not bad for a processor core that's four years older. Tenchusatsu