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To: Charles Gryba who wrote (148058)	11/14/2001 11:57:29 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

This is VERY recent - hardwareanalysis.com James Taylor Nov 01, 2001, 12:25 PM Fustrated with Tyan Thunder K7 (times three) Receintly I ordered parts for 3 servers (so, everything listed x 3): Generic 19" rackmount case NMB SD025A460WSW 460W PS (tyan recommended) Tyan 2462NG (no scsi) bios v2.06 2x 1ghz Athlon MP w CoolerMaster heatsink/fans (amd approved) 512 Kingston pc2100 ddr ram (tyan approved) Adaptec 1200A PCI raid card 2x 40G ATA100 7200 rpm WD400, running raid 1 OnBoard Video OnBoard Nic Creative Labs 52x CDRom Mitsumi 3.5" fdd ---------------------- To make a short story long. This same story goes for -three- systems. Each one has the -exact- same problems. I get everything installed hardware wise and I go to power up the system for the first time. I plug the power in (which is off of a APC 1000UPS) and the only thing that happens is the nic leds flicker for a second. No fans turn, nothing. I unplugged everything and still the same result. I finally found a FAQ on a site and found that if I did the "Clear CMOS" jumper then about 2 seconds after I plugged the system in it would come on. Then I noticed that none of the LED's on the chassis were working, nor the reset or power switch. I removed power, studied the jumper leads for the leds, etc, flipped them around for the heck of it, and tried again. Still the same problem. None of the LED's came on, nor would the power/reset switch work. I know the HDD LED's work, because they work fine when I plug them into the RAID card. Maybe since I only have the cdrom as on the ide channel that's why I don't get a HDD light? shrug If I remove power for too long, then I have to reset the CMOS to try to get it to power back on. So far we haven't had a blackout here so I'm lucky. I hope we don't lose power here for more than 5 minutes after the UPS would die.... So, to combat these problems, I figured I'd try to upgrade the BIOS to the 2.08 thats out. Bad idea. I used a Win98 boot disk (removed everything out of the autoexec and config so nothing would be loaded) and ran the flash utility (phlash16.exe) off of Tyans web site. I used the 2462v208.rom file with the util. About 30 seconds into the actual flashing, I got an error: "Undefined error -8956 Please reboot with crisis diskette" So, I followed some other directions for a recovery. I put the 2462v208.rom on a blank disk, and held ctrl+home as I applied power. Unfortunately it doesn't even -try- to read the fdd. Now I know the fdd works, because how could I have gotten to the flash part if it didn't? Now the board is dead. No activity other than the fans coming on, but it still has the same power problem as listed before. I've emailed Tyan, about the LED and switch problems, but they haven't gotten back to me (and it's been a week). I also mentioned the BIOS update problem. I'm thinking I'll just have to RMA the dead board, but what about the other two? On one of the other servers I went ahead and loaded win2k/exch2k and it seems to be -very- stable. I just pray the power doesn't go off for too long. Anyway, I guess I'm just wondering if anyone has any other input as to what to do. I'm scarred to flash the other two boxes to 2.08 because of what happened to the first one. Thanks James