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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (1932)11/15/2001 12:04:32 AM
From: bill  Respond to of 11633
 
Yes, of course, you are right. If the trusts you are
interested in paid good dividends before the rise in
O&G, then they have downside protection. Also, in the
longer term, there's nowhere to go but up. The problem is
thatin the longer term, we'll all be dead. I guess I'd
be looking for an entry point. I'm assuming that you
are not in the coal trusts so picking a good entry point
is important. After my earlier posting, I heard an
interview on TV in which the interviewee said there could
be a collapse in oil prices if Russia and Mexico keep
pumping oil. He mentioned nine dollar oil. Yes, Saudi
could sell oil at nine dollars and still make six bucks
a barrel but they're already in serious trouble economically.
They want the price over twenty because they
need theprice over twenty. They are in a difficult situation
and a low oil price could topple the royal family and
destabalize the region. They're desperate to hang onto
market share. I'm afraid that oil is as much about politics
as it is about money--maybe even more so.

As I mentioned there are built in inflexabilities--infrastructure, forward contracts, etc.
Those should
create a bottom for coal but given the tough time that
coal producers have had for many years, I wonder how
well they'd do in an environment of collapsing O&G
prices and collapsing demand. There must be some level
below which demand cannot fall. You can shut down factories and malls
but houses need heat and light. I just don't know
what that figure is or its significance to price.

I don't want to sound like doom and gloom (as a matter of
fact I think I'll go make a pot of tea and have a slice
of pumpkin pie to cheer myself up)but what I see, for
the moment, is tremendously instability on a larger scale
than we've not seen since Glasnost and Pierestrokia and the
collapse of the Soviet Union. These large events can have
tremendous consequences.I was in Finland shortly after the
collapseofthe USSR and prices for everything had dropped
dramatically because, virtually overnight, Finland had
lost half of its export market. Of course, the war in
Afghanistan may come to a quick close, there may be some
minor realignment and everything may go back, more or
less,financially, to pre Sept.11. Then the economy will
boom, there'll be a shortage of O&G. Coal will be king.
And I'll retire and live off the avails.