To: EnricoPalazzo who wrote (48946 ) 11/15/2001 5:01:59 AM From: techreports Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 54805 If you were Nokia or AT&T, you'd work very hard to ensure that your suppliers lack proprietary control over an open architecture that you depend on. No one wants their suppliers to have that kind of power over them (just ask most PC OEMs). For this reason, many suppose that having Gorilla-like power over, say, the wireless industry or the telecom industry isn't possible. It may not be likely, but anything is possible. Who, except for Dr J., thought 3g would be based on CDMA and all the major players in the wireless industry would have signed royalty agreements with Qualcomm?-Two, when MSFT & INTC were becoming Gorillas, no one really knew how powerful they'd become, so they got a fair amount of slack. From IBM, and also from the other OEM's. Besides, at the time, the OEM's were too busy duking it out with each other, trying to survive, and cripple IBM to care about MSFT or IBM. (Think America, U.S.S.R. and radical fundamentalist islam at around the same time period). This time around, firms are apt to be much more cautious. For this reason, the recent news about the anti-brew really disturbed me as a QCOM investor. It seems like a sure sign that industry tolerance for QCOM power is extremely low. I am not now, nor have I ever been impressed by QCOM's ability to play politics in the wireless industry. as a investor, i don't like to hear this, but i should probably face reality. It will be very hard for another Microsoft to develop, because everyone saw what happened to the PC OEMs. And if another MSFT does come along, investors will be quick to realize the potential.. I still think BREW has a chance in the CDMA2000 space. I was never really sure of its chances in GSM land. Yes. Fans of Michael Porter will know that one of the four cornerstones of competitive advantage is power vis a vis customers. Power vis a vis suppliers is another. It is obviously helpful to have hordes of small customers with little bargaining power (think Microsoft). It is difficult for a company whose primary customers are themselves huge companies to gain all that much power over those companies. You mention it is hard for a company to gain power where the customers are big, yet Intel's power is due to the fact that their relations with the OEMs are so strong. If it wasn't for the white box market, AMD's market share would probably be lower. Even though the OEMs would love to see MSFT and INTC lose their grip, they still get in bed with INTC? I would thinkt that Intel's 64-bit processors would give them even more leverage with the OEMs, because this will allow them to finally get a piece of the server industry and take share from IBM and Sun. Servers have higher margins...The OEMs probably have wet dreams about the possibilities with Itanium.