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To: Tony Viola who wrote (148395)	11/16/2001 1:13:57 AM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

REL:Somebody cobbled together the ones that got written up on The Motley Fool and other places. Maybe they stole them?" Dunno but they seem to have no where to go but up on sales. I doubt they are as bad as you say they are. A number of new motherboards coming as well... Also, I am very dissappointed with AMDs retail desktop presence right now. Sadly outnumbered by the P4 despite using SDRAM. Dunno how they did it but they have got a lot of them into retail. I think Dell hurts the most though. They have pounded Gateway into submission to where Gateway is trying to adopt the Dell model exclusively even to the extent of being Intel only. Micron still carries AMD boxes but thats not enough. There is a real opening for an AMD mail order boxmaker but no one seems to be able to step up to the plate. Jim

To: Tony Viola who wrote (148395)	11/16/2001 8:20:27 AM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 186894

Compaq also tested Itanium systems from other manufacturers and encountered the same difficulty with those machines.... You guys keep whining that Intel systems may be slow and overpriced, but they are more stable and you can trust the supplier... So what about this? By Mike Magee, 16/11/2001 11:35:06 BST BEHIND THE SCENES a battle royal between Compaq and Intel continues over a problem with Itanium 733MHz and 800MHz chips. Intel calls the T6 problem Compaq discovered with its ProLiant four way servers "a sighting" - meaning that it hasn't yet verified that there's a bug or erratum in the microprocessor. But Compaq maintains fiercely that there is indeed a problem with the chip rather than any other component of the system and that is where things get interesting. When Compaq first discovered the problem earlier this year, it did more than just test its ProLiants - it also tested other systems from other manufacturers and encountered the same difficulty with those machines. That finally led it to issue a memo to its partners and some of its selected customers on October 23rd, vowing that it would not ship ProLiants into "mission critical" environments until the problem was fixed. So Intel and Compaq saying that there is "no problem" because machines "haven't shipped" is putting a spin on the matter which doesn't compute. As we pointed out in our first story last month, and subsequent stories, this casts a whole different light on the matter. We said: "If one major OEM refuses to ship because of reliability problems, shouldn't the other 19 OEMs call a halt to shipments too? In other words, just as soon as Intel finds out whether the problem is a bug or a creature of a different kind, the whole IA-64 community needs to be told. 213.219.40.69