To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (48982 ) 11/16/2001 9:28:56 AM From: techreports Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 54805 so in msft, you have a co clocking 1bil a month in CF; what would have been a reasonable price to pay for that in 1986? easy enough to figure, but of course this is hypothetical since no such foreknowledge existed. MSFT was surely undervalued as long as one kept some measure of uncertainty in the valuation equation, but that trend seems to have changed. even going back to the beginning of our ongoing bubble in internet-related IT stocks--the Netscape ipo in 1995 i believe--bill gates commented at the time that Netscape had a 3-billion-dollar market cap right out of the gate, but MSFT didn't get that big of a market cap for X years. perhaps andreesen thot this was sour grapes, but in retrospect, it seems that the market was placing a much smaller margin of uncertainty (i.e., a higher price) on Netscape than it did 9 years earlier on msft, which paucity of uncertainty proved insufficient to achieve a long-term handsome return (altho AOL was a night in shining amour for them). and that was just at the beginning of the historically unprecedented bubble in IT stocks. i submit that uncertainty discounts for G&K candidates, verifiable or otherwise, are nothing like what they used to be; this is not yer father's microsoft. to my mind, it is axiomatic, then, that forward returns from such issues will be nothing like those of past stars. one could make a legitimate argument, as GG does, that a stock such as msft was "way too cheap". indeed, this regret of missing the msft (or qcom, or csco) boat seems to have informed the enthusiasm behind today's greater premiums. to an extent i think this is legitimate, but the legitimate extent i believe is a much shorter ledge than that extended by today's generous and forgiving investors. muchomaas, i think you are correct in that future gorillas will not be ignored by the markets and will receive a premium. Does that mean we can't make money from tech stocks? Also, knowing that investors are willing to take more risk than they did in the 80s and early 90s, what should we do as investors? Should we wait till investing isn't cool anymore and investors are willing to be less optimistic and price stocks with a certain amount of risk.