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Politics : WAR on Terror. Will it engulf the Entire Middle East? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Scoobah who wrote (326)	11/16/2001 1:42:18 PM
From: Scoobah	Respond to of 32591

Friday, November 16, 2001 Kislev 1, 5762 Israel Time: 20:40 (GMT+2) 17:21 16/11/2001 Last update - 19:39 16/11/2001 U.S. official: Senior al Qaida official apparently killed By Reuters Mohammed Atef, one of the top leaders of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network, has apparently been killed in a U.S. air strike in Afghanistan, a U.S. official said on Friday. Atef was believed to have been Osama bin Laden's right hand man "We believe that it is true that he was killed in the U.S. bombing around Kabul," said the official, who asked not to be identified. The official declined to say when Atef might have been killed, although the Pentagon had said earlier in the week that several senior officials of the Taliban and perhaps al Qaida had died in a targeted strike on a house in Kabul on Tuesday. Atef, an Egyptian former policeman has been operating with bin Laden's group, which has been accused by the United States of staging the Sept. 11 attacks which killed more than 4,500 people in New York and at the Pentagon. Also known as Abu Hafs al-Masri, Atef left for Afghanistan in the mid-1980s from his native Egypt, where he was wanted for the 1990 murder of Egyptian Parliament Speaker Rifaat al-Mahgoub. He had also been a member of Egyptian Islamic Jihad, the group that killed President Anwar Sadat in 1981 as retribution for his peace deal with Israel, and had been a close aide to Bin Laden for more than 10 years. Intelligence services had identified him as the "military planner" of the September 11 attacks and the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, for which he was on the Federal Bureau of Investigation's "most wanted" list. According to U.S. investigators, Atef sat on al Qaeda's military committee and was also responsible for supervising the training of new members at camps in Afghanistan. Rumsfeld: U.S. special forces shooting Taliban, al Qaida who do not surrender U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said that special U.S. forces were active in southern Afghanistan, shooting Taliban and al Qaida forces who did not surrender. "They are killing Taliban that won't surrender and al Qaida that are trying to move from one place to another," Rumsfeld told reporters as he flew from Washington to a naval training station near Chicago. The United States has several hundred special operations forces both with the Northern Alliance, which drove against Kabul and other northern cities, and on the ground in the south, with tribal groups that rose up against the Taliban. Rumsfeld also said a number of senior Taliban and al Qaida figures were being held by the opposition in Afghanistan and would be interrogated by American forces. He declined to identify the detainees further, saying, "We do have some names and they were not privates, some of them." Explaining why the detainees were being held by the opposition Afghan Northern Alliance rather than U.S. forces, he said the U.S. forces, numbering in the 100s, had no detention facilities. He said the hunt was on for the top leadership of the two organizations, which in the past week have been routed from territory they held after a massive U.S. bombing campaign and an opposition offensive. "They bob and weave and move and that's what they're doing. They are moving a great deal and we are clearly reducing the square miles of geography that they to function in," he said. Rumsfeld said, "As the opposition forces move in and the Taliban and al Qaida move out, it offers a number of opportunities. "The opportunity clearly is that you have a chance to interrogate people who have been captured. You have an opportunity to go through a lot of paper and materials that are left behind and it adds to your knowledge," he said.

To: Scoobah who wrote (326)	11/16/2001 1:47:10 PM
From: Scoobah	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

Do This For Israel Please ask your Senators to impose sanctions on the terrorists attacking Israel. It takes only a few mouse clicks (less than 1 minute of your time!). Thanks 1) Go to this url: ou.org 2) Find your State on the pull-down list (you have 2 senators) 3) Fill in your name and click send, then do it again for your other senator. 4) Forward this e-mail to your friends who are in the US even if you are not.

To: Scoobah who wrote (326)	11/16/2001 2:18:39 PM
From: Cage Rattler	Respond to of 32591

Small world -- I was banned from the same thread. I suggested that Bill Clinton had provided ben Laden et. al. with an operational definition of stupidity when dealing with the Islamic nations -- thus playing into their hands. I was referring to actions like Arafat being in the next room while Clinton was moistening cigars, and bombing tents and an aspirin factory to cover his lies -- all provided with details at eleven courtesy of CNN. No matter what one's political persuasion, Clinton's behavior, vis-à-vis the Israel-Islamist situation, hurt both the US and Israel. It all added to the Great and little Satan sales pitch. Guess my line of thought, which was never completed, touched-off a brouhaha. I've been reinstated but have not returned. Have you read the Israeli book -- Dealing With Suicide Terrorism? It's on discount and summarizes a meeting held earlier this year. It is very informative. Ted