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To: AK2004 who wrote (63849)	11/16/2001 3:49:17 PM
From: Windsock	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Dell says 2GHz Pentiums back on track By John G. Spooner Special to CNET News.com November 16, 2001, 10:05 a.m. PT After a short 2GHz drought, Dell Computer is back in the chips. After pulling the 2GHz Pentium 4 processor from its Web ordering forms last weekend, the PC giant is again offering the chip. "We were able to get our supply (back), and we're taking orders again," a Dell representative said Friday morning. Lead times on Dimension 8200 desktops, the main vessel for the 2GHz chip, have been whittled down to about 10 business days, compared with a three- to four-day average for other models. Lead times on the 2GHz Dimension had stretched to 40 business days earlier in the week. Dell attributed the events to unexpectedly high demand for the chip. But Intel acknowledged that the 2GHz chip, introduced August 27, is still hard to come by. Intel allocates high-end chips in numbers relative to the amount of total chips each PC maker typically buys, a company representative said. In this case, it appears Dell went through its entire allocation before a new shipment had arrived, the Intel representative said. "Supplies on the 2GHz are fairly tight," the Intel representative added. The dearth of 2GHz chips created missed opportunities for Dell, analysts said, but is unlikely to have damaged the company's profits. The situation also points to higher-than-expected demand for high-end PCs, suggesting the slumping PC market could be showing signs of revival. There's "tightness of supply of certain (products), and it's not just Intel," said Dean McCarron, an analyst at Mercury Research. McCarron said he's heard certain Athlon processors from Intel rival Advanced Micro Devices are in tight supply as well. "That would imply that the market is healthier than we thought it was," he said. Rob Herb, executive vice president of sales at AMD, confirmed the company sold out of two Athlon speed grades. News.com's Michael Kanellos contributed to this report. news.cnet.com

To: AK2004 who wrote (63849)	11/17/2001 12:08:44 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Albert, p4 at 50%+ of us retail, where does intel get their data? Let say they continue at the same pace and now they are at 55%-65% then if amd is at around 35%-40% then there is only 0% left for celerons and pIIIs I don't think AMD is at 35%-40% of US Retail. AMD share of retail desktops started dropping in Q2 and never recovered. It's hard to find a top of the like AMD PC anymore. What you can find is a lot of the HP Athlon based models with 1.3 GHz Athlon Tunderbird, 200 MHz FSB (not a very desirable machine at this time.) I have seen one high end Athlon based Compaq with XP 1800+,, and the rest were P4s, Celerons, and a few (10 - 15%) low end Athlon and Duron machines. Sony no longer offers AMD based desktops. HP used to offer DDR based desktop, and it is gone now. It is a shame that AMD has the highest performing desktop CPUs and is unable to sell them. The delay of desktop Palomino is what caused the huge drop in AMD's desktop retail, and so far, it doesn't look like XP is regaining any of it. On the positive side, we now have some notebook penetration, partially offsetting losses in desktop retail segment. Joe