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To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (1054)11/16/2001 5:10:56 PM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15516
 
War is Hell (On Your Civil Liberties)
The President issues a decree allowing suspected terrorists to be tried and sentenced in secret military trials. Is this the way to run a democracy? BY JESSICA REAVES

Thursday, Nov. 15, 2001
This is wartime, the President reminds us. The usual rules do not apply. Fair enough. But what worries some people, ranging from Bush's persistent critics at the ACLU to conservative New York Times columnist William Safire to uber-conservative U.S. Rep. Bob Barr, is this administration's propensity for overstepping centuries-old legislative procedures in the name of national security.

In the days immediately after September 11th, for example, Ashcroft issued a decree permitting federal officers to wiretap pretty much anyone for almost any reason, and to detain people for extended periods of time without filing charges. This Tuesday, the Bush administration went to a whole new level when the President signed an emergency order allowing non-citizens suspected of terrorism to be tried in military tribunals.

The decree, urged on the President by Attorney General John Ashcroft, allows the government to circumvent the legal requirements of a civilian trial (i.e. all that "innocent until proven guilty" stuff) in favor of brisk, clandestine proceedings behind closed doors. No jury, no public hearing. Just swift "justice."

There is a precedent for such an order: In 1942, eight Nazi saboteurs sneaked onto U.S. soil armed with explosives to be directed against military and civilian installations. Their plan was thwarted, and all were tried and convicted in a secret military trial ordered by President Roosevelt. Of the eight, six were electrocuted.

Upsetting liberals and libertarians
This week's order not only prompted a visceral "this doesn't seem right" reaction from a variety of public figures, it also brought many constitutional law experts up short. Is this military tribunal order actually legal? Shouldn't we just be planning to kill bin Laden on sight? What does the President's order mean for the 1,100 people detained or arrested since September 11th?

So is this really something we want to be doing?

Christopher Pyle, professor of politics and constitutional law at Mount Holyoke College, is not convinced the President is acting within the rights of his office. "Where does the President get the right to do this? He claims the right to do this as President, as commander in chief, pursuant to the resolution passed in Congress after the September 11th attacks and pursuant to several statutes in U.S. code. But there's nothing in either the congressional resolution or federal law that allows the President to override the legislative process."

The worst-case scenario
How might this order affect legal aliens living in the U.S.? Professor Pyle offers a grim example. Let's say there's a Pakistani man who's living here legally, he says. He owns a chain of motels, and one day, all of a sudden, he's arrested. When he asks why, officials tell him it's because he "harbored" a suspected terrorist, a man who once stayed in the motel for a while and took the owner out for a beer. Instead of being held at the local police station, the Pakistani man is taken to a military jail, perhaps in a boat off the U.S. coast, where he can't easily access counsel and can't see his family. He's tried in the military court, and if two-thirds of the officers find him guilty, he's sentenced — possibly to death.

The standards of guilt, explains Pyle, are far different in a military tribunal than they are in a civilian court or even in a traditional military trial. "They don't need to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, or even a preponderance of evidence pointing to guilt," he says. "The court just needs to convince the majority of the military officers present — all of whom see themselves as being 'at war' with this prisoner — that the Pakistani man had something to do with a terrorist act."

Some legal experts question the necessity of creating a whole new court system. "It's not clear to me why we're doing this now," says Professor Jonathan Entin, who teaches constitutional law at Case Western Reserve University. "We tried the people who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993 in civilian court. Since we figured out a way to handle that trial, I guess my question is why this administration now sees civilian courts as inadequate."

The White House defends its position
Responding to widespread criticism, the White House has remained resolute. The order exists, the White House asserts, only to provide a legal framework for trying Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda associates. A brief, secret trial, the theory goes, means the defendants have no chance to use the international legal stage to broadcast their philosophies; and excluding a jury from the trial means no one will have to fear retribution for handing down a guilty verdict.

Professor Entin also questions the message sent by the President's decision. "My concern about this order, not having reviewed every detail, is that it kind of undercuts the efforts we've been making as a nation to distinguish ourselves from regimes like the Taliban," he says. "It sort of suggests that when the going gets tough, we don't really believe in our ideals either."

For his part, Christopher Pyle wonders if the President's order would survive a legal challenge, but doubts we'll ever find out. "This will probably stand unless Congress or the courts strike it down. And as we all know, the courts and Congress are not exactly thrilled to override the President during moments of heightened national security."



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (1054)11/16/2001 7:05:35 PM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15516
 
I posted Safire's article. I must have posted a copy to another forum!!

Safire is right though. Bush believes he has the powers of a dictator. And so does Ashcroft.



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (1054)11/16/2001 7:11:37 PM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15516
 
A Travesty of Justice

"..... Mr. Bush is eroding the very values and principles he seeks to protect, including the rule of law."

Editorial

The New York Times
November 16, 2001



President Bush's plan to use secret
military tribunals to try terrorists is a
dangerous idea, made even worse by the
fact that it is so superficially attractive. In his
effort to defend America from terrorists, Mr. Bush is eroding the very values
and principles he seeks to protect, including the rule of law.

The administration's action is the latest in a troubling series of attempts since
Sept. 11 to do an end run around the Constitution. It comes on the heels of
an announcement that the Justice Department intends to wiretap
conversations between some prisoners and their lawyers. The administration
also continues to hold hundreds of detainees without revealing their identities,
the charges being brought against them or even the reasons for such secrecy.

The temptation to employ extrajudicial proceedings to deal with Osama bin
Laden and his henchmen is understandable. The horrific attacks of Sept. 11
give credence to the notion that these foreign terrorists are uniquely
malevolent outlaws, undeserving of American constitutional protections.
Military tribunals can act swiftly, anywhere, averting the security problems
that a high-profile trial in New York or Washington could pose.

But by ruling that terrorists fall outside the norms of civilian and military
justice, Mr. Bush has taken it upon himself to establish a prosecutorial
channel that answers only to him. The decision is an insult to the exquisite
balancing of executive, legislative and judicial powers that the framers
incorporated into the Constitution. With the flick of a pen, in this case, Mr.
Bush has essentially discarded the rulebook of American justice painstakingly
assembled over the course of more than two centuries. In the place of fair
trials and due process he has substituted a crude and unaccountable system
that any dictator would admire.

The tribunals Mr. Bush envisions are a breathtaking departure from due
process. He alone will decide who should come before these courts. The
military prosecutors and judges who determine the fate of defendants will all
report to him as commander in chief. Cases can be heard in secret. Hearsay,
and evidence that civilian courts may deem illegally obtained, may be
permissible. A majority of only two-thirds of the presiding officers would be
required to convict, or to impose a death sentence. There would be no right
of appeal to any other court.

American civilian courts have proved themselves perfectly capable of
handling terrorist cases without overriding defendants' basic rights. Federal
prosecutors in New York recently won guilty verdicts against bin Laden
compatriots who were accused of bombing two American embassies in
Africa in 1998. Osama bin Laden himself was indicted in those attacks.
Federal courts have ample discretion to keep sensitive intelligence under
seal, while still affording defendants a legitimate adversarial process. The law
already limits the reach of the Bill of Rights overseas. American troops need
not show a warrant before entering a cave in Afghanistan for their findings to
be admissible at trial in the United States.

Using secretive military tribunals would ultimately undermine American
interests in the Islamic world by casting doubt on the credibility of a verdict
against Osama bin Laden and his aides. No amount of spinning by Mr.
Bush's public relations team could overcome the impression that the verdict
had been dictated before the trial began. Reliance on tribunals would also
signal a lack of confidence in the case against the terrorists and in the nation's
democratic institutions.

A better way to administer justice must be found. If Mr. Bush is determined
to bring terrorists to trial abroad, he should ask the United Nations Security
Council to establish an international tribunal like the one set up to deal with
war crimes in the Balkans. The proceedings of this court have been fair and
effective, and it is respected around the world. If Slobodan Milosevic can be
brought to trial before such a court, so can Osama bin Laden.

More than half a century ago the United States and its allies brought some of
history's most monstrous criminals to justice in Nuremberg, Germany. In his
opening statement at the trial of Nazi leaders, Robert Jackson, the chief
American prosecutor, warned of the danger of tainted justice. "To pass those
defendants a poisoned chalice is to put it to our lips as well," he said.
President Bush would be wise to heed those words.

nytimes.com