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To: Susan Saline who wrote (34793)11/16/2001 6:44:33 PM
From: Larry S.  Respond to of 53068
 
OT - with compliments to Dale Baker on the 50% thread:
Dale posted this old Arlo Guthrie song, Alice's Restaurant, and thought it might be good to hear/read it again:

Came to talk about the draft.

They got a building down New York City, it's called Whitehall Street,
where you walk in, you get injected, inspected, detected, infected,
neglected and selected. I went down to get my physical examination one
day, and I walked in, I sat down, got good and drunk the night before, so
I looked and felt my best when I went in that morning. `Cause I wanted to
look like the all-American kid from New York City, man I wanted, I wanted
to feel like the all-, I wanted to be the all American kid from New York,
and I walked in, sat down, I was hung down, brung down, hung up, and all
kinds o' mean nasty ugly things. And I waked in and sat down and they gave
me a piece of paper, said, "Kid, see the phsychiatrist, room 604."

And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and
he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me,
sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."

Didn't feel too good about it.

Proceeded on down the hall gettin more injections, inspections,
detections, neglections and all kinds of stuff that they was doin' to me
at the thing there, and I was there for two hours, three hours, four
hours, I was there for a long time going through all kinds of mean nasty
ugly things and I was just having a tough time there, and they was
inspecting, injecting every single part of me, and they was leaving no
part untouched. Proceeded through, and when I finally came to the see the
last man, I walked in, walked in sat down after a whole big thing there,
and I walked up and said, "What do you want?" He said, "Kid, we only got
one question. Have you ever been arrested?"

And I proceeded to tell him the story of the Alice's Restaurant Massacre,
with full orchestration and five part harmony and stuff like that and all
the phenome... - and he stopped me right there and said, "Kid, did you ever
go to court?"

And I proceeded to tell him the story of the twenty seven eight-by-ten
colour glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and the paragraph on
the back of each one, and he stopped me right there and said, "Kid, I want
you to go and sit down on that bench that says Group W .... NOW kid!!"

And I, I walked over to the, to the bench there, and there is, Group W's
where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after
committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly
looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father
rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And
they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the
bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest
father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly
'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me
and said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay
$50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"
And I said, "Littering." And they all moved away from me on the bench
there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I
said, "And creating a nuisance." And they all came back, shook my hand,
and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing,
father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the
bench. And everything was fine, we was smoking cigarettes and all kinds of
things, until the Sargeant came over, had some paper in his hand, held it
up and said.

"Kids, this-piece-of-paper's-got-47-words-37-sentences-58-words-we-wanna-
know-details-of-the-crime-time-of-the-crime-and-any-other-kind-of-thing-
you-gotta-say-pertaining-to-and-about-the-crime-I-want-to-know-arresting-
officer's-name-and-any-other-kind-of-thing-you-gotta-say", and talked for
forty-five minutes and nobody understood a word that he said, but we had
fun filling out the forms and playing with the pencils on the bench there,
and I filled out the massacre with the four part harmony, and wrote it
down there, just like it was, and everything was fine and I put down the
pencil, and I turned over the piece of paper, and there, there on the
other side, in the middle of the other side, away from everything else on
the other side, in parentheses, capital letters, quotated, read the
following words:

("KID, HAVE YOU REHABILITATED YOURSELF?")

I went over to the sargent, said, "Sargeant, you got a lot a damn gall to
ask me if I've rehabilitated myself, I mean, I mean, I mean that just, I'm
sittin' here on the bench, I mean I'm sittin here on the Group W bench
'cause you want to know if I'm moral enough join the army, burn women,
kids, houses and villages after bein' a litterbug." He looked at me and
said, "Kid, we don't like your kind, and we're gonna send you fingerprints
off to Washington."

And friends, somewhere in Washington enshrined in some little folder, is a
study in black and white of my fingerprints. And the only reason I'm
singing you this song now is cause you may know somebody in a similar
situation, or you may be in a similar situation, and if your in a
situation like that there's only one thing you can do and that's walk into
the shrink wherever you are ,just walk in say "Shrink, You can get
anything you want, at Alice's restaurant.". And walk out. You know, if
one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick and
they won't take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony,
they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them.
And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in
singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an
organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said
fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and
walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.

A little aside - In 1967 I was in ROTC on the way to active duty. A friend of mine got his notice to go for his physical. Fred (my friend) stayed up all night, polluting his mind and body with whatever substances, legal and illegal he could get his hands on. Now Fred was about 6'1", 190 lbs, long curly hair and a full beard. When it was time to for him to go to the physical the next morning, he put on a dress and went down.
When the Sargeant told him to strip, he just looked at him and said: "You mean, in front of all these men?" Now Fred was in no means gay, but that line came out just fine. I believe they told him to go to Group W, or Y or someplace - and the army, in their wisdom, decided that he was not appropriate for service. Whenever I hear Alic's Restaurant, I think of Fred. Right on bro. larry



To: Susan Saline who wrote (34793)11/17/2001 8:11:52 AM
From: Larry S.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 53068
 
Sue, positive article on U and their cash position. Looks like sub 5 might indeed have been a fine entry point. The airlines remain an industry on life support, but with the significantly lowered fuel prices, and some return to confidence and occupancy rates, U and the other beaten downs could turn out quite nicely. My favorite remains LUV, which has been a winner in the sector for many years. article: biz.yahoo.com
re ron and ebay- i await ron's answer, but i suspect his string of singles and doubles in his current atm-sex-slave-ebay is quite impressive, whether he's running the bases forward or backwards. larry



To: Susan Saline who wrote (34793)11/17/2001 9:09:08 AM
From: Ron McKinnon  Respond to of 53068
 
Sue, I am still holding some short

>>>now that options are out of the way there is little to hold it back

one could take the opposite view---now that options are out of the way there is little to hold it up

as to scalping, often it is "easier" and less risky to fiddle with a $60 stock than a $6 one
especially if it is range bound
but remmber the thesis I was operating under the past few days was that "they" would pin it to the 60 strike for Fridays close
it turned out that way but of course I might have been dead wrong

longer term I am still operating under the assumption that while this is only real .com and it is a loved cult stock the growth rate has slowed
sure it could go to 100 again
but I do have to think that the days of paying a 100+ P/E for a 50% or less growth rate have ended
a few months from now one could easily make a case for it to be $80 or $40

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