To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (134865 ) 11/17/2001 3:11:32 AM From: craig crawford Respond to of 164684 >> 1. show me one person who believes eating 6 ozs of straight animal fat is better or equal to eating the same amount of monunsaturated fat - other than yourself << no one would want to so quit wasting my time with foolish hypotheses. >> wrt to carbos being bad - i agree that too many carbos are bad (and are a key to excess weight gan) and i agree that america eats way too many carbos << hey. it's a start. saying america eats too much is just another example of a nice safe middle of the road position that a 5 year old could come up with. >> fruits and vegetables aren't bad for you << show me where i said they were. yet another safe position taken by skeeter! >> some folks were snookered by the other extreme end of that pendulum - carbos (fruits and vegetables - along with a lot of other sugar crap) are evil << i never said fruits and veggies are evil. "other sugar crap" is not healthy for you. why don't you tell us the nutritional content of sugar! tell us all the wonderful vitamins and minerals to be found in sugar! i can provide a nice list found in meat, eggs, and other animal sources with saturated fat. >> no, it is how you use them that determines their value. << i dunno how you use your fruits and veggies, but i only use them for eating ;-) >> carbos are good in moderation. protein is good when taken in amounts that support one's unique lean body mass and activity level. monounsaturated fat is good, too. saturated fat isn't a big deal unless you eat too much of it. << so once again you move to the moderate position because you are afraid to take a stand on what you believe is right and defend it. "carbos are good in moderation "protein is good when taken in amounts..." "monounsaturated fat is good, too" "saturated fat isn't a big deal unless you eat too much of it." way to go out on a limb and tell us something relevant! everything in moderation for skeeter! politics in moderation, carbs, protein, fats, in moderation. nice safe defensible viewpoint. >> you sound like a guy who lost some weight on the atkins diet and, therefore, the diet is healthy << you sound like a guy who makes assumptions when you don't know what you're talking about. >> most folks apparently don't read that far in the book... ;-) << speak for yourself, not me. but of course another long post with not much to say so, on second thought, maybe you should just stop speaking and do more reading.