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To: craig crawford who wrote (134900)	11/25/2001 10:44:08 PM
From: Kevin Podsiadlik	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

<< even if that cause temporarily loses >> The key to the whole thing is that word "temporary". What are you going to do to make your cause more successful in 2002, or 2004, or 2008, or 2020, or 2040? (Much beyond that time I can't guarantee my being alive for you to tell me that you told me so.) It's like I said before, "temporary" losses have a way of becoming not so temporary. Doing the rhetorical equivalent of sitting on your asses and waiting for public opinion to come to you may be nice and comfortable and pleasing to the soul but that's just not going to accomplish anything meaningful to anyone else. The key is not to confuse endorsing agendas not entirely square with your beliefs with changing your actual beliefs. Liberal Democrats have demonstrated convincingly, especially over the past 40 years, how effective being willing to do the former is in moving public opinion in the direction you want it to go. Yes, it's not pure, it's very dirty, but it's politics, what did you expect? Show me a significant government that has completely divorced itself from the practice of politics and I'll show you a place where your tactics could work. Failing that, sorry! Have a nice life.