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To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (203976)	11/19/2001 4:36:22 PM
From: JDN	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Dear karen: This "Boy Scout" thing disturbs me greatly. I was a scout and I still use today things I learned in Scouting. And in my day, most kids lived in a two parent family. Today not even that is true anymore so if Scouting is let down a lot of young boys are really going to miss out on opportunities to learn things that would be good for them. Its a sorry situation. JDN

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (203976)	11/19/2001 4:48:07 PM
From: Kenneth V. McNutt	Respond to of 769670

<<FIELD REPORT:>> Scouts win in Santa Barbara, California!!! Here is a letter Grassfire.net received from Michael Warnken, our contact on the ground in Santa Barbara who headed up a victorious initiative to protect the Scouts in his community. Michael led an effort to draft, bring to a vote and pass the "Youth Anti-Discrimination Act." The initiative came about after anti-Scouts forces on the county board passed an initiative that effectively censured the local BSA council. Michael gathered over 23,000 petitions to get the anti-discrimination act on the ballot, and in November 2001 it passed! Here is Michaels’ field report: Michael C. Warnken Chief Proponent Friends of the Boy Scouts Youth Anti-Discrimination Act Santa Barbara County November 14, 2001 Dear Grassfire.net, It is my job now to crow and have everyone else that we possibly can get to crow as well. We won our initiative. The Board of Supervisors passed our resolution unanimously. As you may well know, last March the Local Board of Superintendents Passed a Resolution Censuring the BSA for having discriminatory practices that were not the compatible with Santa Barbara County. I took up the effort to overturn the resolution by taking it to a vote of the people. The county did everything to stop me. They even sued me. We re-wrote the initiative and collected over 23,000 signatures in this county to support the Boy Scouts. Today, the Board had the choice of either putting it on the ballot or adopting it. The woman that wrote the resolution would have been up for election at the same time the initiative would have been on the ballot. They chose to adopt it instead to save themselves. During the two readings of the initiative, They (The three supes) did everything that they could to make it look like the initiative was less than it was. They even renamed it by using the liberal county attorney. But we shined the light through and the Supes that passed the resolution censuring the Boy Scouts all ate crow and you could see it on their faces as they voted for it. We won and this is a huge victory. It is a victory for the freedom of Religion, The freedom of association and the freedom for parents to choose the leaders and role-models for their children. I want you to get an idea of how big a win this is. Santa Barbara is a very liberal county. So liberal that one supervisor Gail Marshall fired a man for doing the pledge of allegiance at a county meeting! Our congress person is Lois Capps, a liberal. Our Assembly person is Hanna-Beth Jackson Liberal Dem. Our State Senator Jack O'Connell is a liberal. 4 of our 5 supervisors are democrats and the area is 55% registered democrat and 43% Registered Republican! Our initiative won in a liberal district. We had polling numbers that said that the liberals supported us 60%!!! The North county (which is mostly conservative) supported us 80-90+%. We now need to figure out how to tell the World!!!! I hope that you can let everyone know. I hope that this can help to give force to the congressional bill that is being considered in Congress to support the scouts and their access to schools. The Boy Scouts are a fantastic organization and they need to be promoted for all that they do for our youth. Sincerely, Michael C. Warnken Chief Proponent Friends of the Boy Scouts If you would like to find out more on how you can see victories for the Scouts like what just happened in Santa Barbara, e-mail scouts@grassfire.net and request information on the "Youth Anti-Discrimination Act." To notify Grassfire.net of a crucial Scouts issue in your community, e-mail scouts@grassfire.net.

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (203976)	11/19/2001 5:02:08 PM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

"Scouts have high moral standards; the exact opposite of what is often openly displayed in Gay "Pride" Parades." "--I agree that those parades set a poor example, but so does so much heterosexual smut I see...everywhere. At the top of my street once there was a billboard of a half naked woman selling some, I don't know, perfume perhaps. My local convenience store has half his magazine display devoted to pornography. I don't want to seem to be promoting gays in the scouts, I'm not. But I work with many gay people, and I honestly can't rank gay people one way or another with heterosexual people in terms of morality. I see jerks, that are both gay and not gay. But for the most part, my experience working with gay people, has been a good one, in terms of work done and honesty. I know many gays that suffer much angst with their families for being gay, but they feel they have no choice in the matter.