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To: Robert Salasidis who wrote (148880)	11/19/2001 9:23:54 PM
From: Elmer	Respond to of 186894

A little investigation into the AMD datasheet. The leakage current is rated at a sleep voltage 1.3V (vs an operating 1.75V), and the Tdie is 50 degress vs 100 for intel. What would be interesting is to look at the leakage current for their highest speed XP parts. Not that it really matters but with those incredibly tight channels the transistors should be leaking like a sieve. EP

To: Robert Salasidis who wrote (148880)	11/19/2001 10:11:01 PM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Robert, "and the Tdie is 50 degress vs 100 for intel." Where did you get this ridiculous idea about Intel's 100C? It was long ridiculed here that Intel cannot make processors anymore that fit even into the standard commercial temperature range 0-70C. For example, the design under discussion, ftp://download.intel.com/design/PentiumIII/datashts/24965702.pdf specifies the working maximum case temperature of 69C. I guess now we know another reason why 0.18 Intel 1-GHz processors had T die of 62C. "then the leakage current would actually be less than the AMD part." I'd like to see how you got 10A for an AMD part :-) - Ali

To: Robert Salasidis who wrote (148880)	11/19/2001 11:09:33 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Robert - Re: "A little investigation into the AMD datasheet. The leakage current is rated at a sleep voltage 1.3V (vs an operating 1.75V), and the Tdie is 50 degress vs 100 for intel." The REAL ISSUE here is that Ban Ban Ail Chen grabbed THE WRONG INTEL data sheet to prove some point that the STinquirer was rumour mongering. As usual, Ban Ban Ail made a complete FOOL of himself and got everything WRONG. Intel's 0.13 micron process and products have no serious leakage problems. Paul