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To: steve harris who wrote (148987)	11/20/2001 5:02:29 PM
From: AK2004	Respond to of 186894

Steve re: "Customer interest for Itanium servers is "effectively zero," Joe Marengi, general manager of Dell Computer's thank for reminding me about that treasure. That goes well together with growing support theory: Message 16686698 :-)) Regards -Albert ps let's not even talk about growing support from Compaq

To: steve harris who wrote (148987)	11/20/2001 5:06:26 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Respond to of 186894

Steve, did you read this? biz.yahoo.com "Dell and MigraTEC Team to Port Customers to Itanium Platform" How does Dell justify this if interest is "effectively zero"? Do you think, perhaps, that Joe Marengi might not be speaking for the rest of Dell (or their customers)? wbmw

To: steve harris who wrote (148987)	11/20/2001 5:11:59 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Respond to of 186894

Steve, Re: "Customer interest for Itanium servers is "effectively zero," Joe Marengi, general manager of Dell Computer's enterprise business unit in North America, said in an interview Tuesday at the Comdex (news - web sites) Fall 2001 trade show. Joe must have forgot about this sale. "It has been really excellent performance on even early hardware," agreed David Lifka, chief technical officer at the Cornell Theory Center, which plans to install a 128-processor Dell Itanium cluster to power research applications at Cornell University in Ithaca, N.Y. "We have seen it outperforming even late-generation RISC architectures" on certain applications, he said. computerworld.com wbmw P.S. You may want to check out the above article. It has both the good and the bad inside. It's more how unbiased journalism should be.

To: steve harris who wrote (148987)	11/20/2001 5:25:28 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Respond to of 186894

Steve, Re: "Customer interest for Itanium servers is "effectively zero," Joe Marengi, general manager of Dell Computer's enterprise business unit in North America, said in an interview Tuesday at the Comdex (news - web sites) Fall 2001 trade show. Randy Groves from Dell Computer Corp.'s enterprise server division disagrees with Mr. Marengi. Q: What does the arrival of Intel's Itanium mean for users? A: The computational capability of Itanium is staggeringly better compared to IA-32 processors. It provides a very significant performance advantage for scientific applications and applications such as cryptography. But the most important attribute of Itanium is its 64-bit addressing capability. It allows servers to address more than 4 GB of memory [a capability needed to run large applications such as databases]. Q: Do RISC/Unix vendors such as Sun Microsystems Inc. and Hewlett-Packard Co. have an advantage because they, unlike Dell, make both the server hardware and software? A: They have an advantage today. But there is nothing technically that will keep Windows and Itanium from getting there. There have been vast improvements in Windows, and there are some very impressing uptime numbers from Microsoft. By the time we get to Whistler on an IA-64 platform next year, the environment will have reached that necessary threshold. Q: Are commodity Wintel platforms really suited to meet the specialized needs of the enterprise server market? A: I remember having similar discussions around Unix and RISC a few years ago. We are seeing the same trend happening here again. Intel and Windows have taken over the workstation space and have begun doing the same in the server space. The fundamentals are there. It is going to happen. The reason is the economics behind it. When all the research and development are focused on one platform and the costs can be amortized across the industry, it reduces costs for users. It will happen when there is no benefit to a more expensive solution. itworld.com wbmw