To: E who wrote (38154 ) 11/21/2001 5:15:01 PM From: The Philosopher Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486 E, Please, go to the library, get a copy of DSM-IV, and look up 300.3, Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. And judge for yourself how close to this condition you may be getting. Whatever you may think, I really do care about you. I have wonderful memories of our pleasurable times together on SI and in emails (just to clarify for the world, no, we have never met in person, it was all etheral, but nonetheless wonderful). Truly, I want you to be happy. Just not at the cost of my own integrity. This obsession is not making you happy. There come times in this life when you have to accept that you just simply won't get what you want, even when you think you're right or deserve it. This is one of them. An aspect of mental health is recognizing those times, and not continuing to beat your head uselessly against a wall. For you own sake, if not for that of the others on this thread who have long since tired of this topic, just let it go and move on. BTW, if you want me to come beat your dog, you have to tell me first where you live so I can come do that, since I have no idea where you live. Beating dogs is not something I have ever done before, and I would normally never think of doing it, but if it would make you happy for me to come beat your dog for you so I can then confess to it, I'm willing to force myself to. Send me your address and the money for a ticket, and I'll make the sacrifice for you. (But I warn you, I'm not willing, even for you, to beat a dog severely enough to cause more than momentary, transitory pain, so make sure that level of beating is worth it to you.) Take care of yourself. Find a flower to smell, a fire to sit beside, a good book to read, and a good man to share it all with. And have a happy Thanksgiving. Your once and always Arteeste.