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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (11208)	11/23/2001 12:01:31 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Isolationism, (as) in terms of US, should be either total or not, not onesided. Pollution, CO2,etc,etc,etc makes isolationism impossible in these days, although it also has been impossible for many centuries. (militarily, globally any chance of isolationism ended when the sputnik beeped all over the globe, with a background of russia not having any natural borders to isolate behind) Finland has in a way had the most "isolated" (manmade) border, the one to Sovjet/Russia, but not even that works or worked through isolationism, on the contrary, through lots of negotiations, mutual understanding of even the most innermost fears and goals. Have no experience of "Braveheart", but it seem pretty bad, kind of xenophobic from your very short descripition (warrior "cultures" from afare) Ilmarinen The anglomaerican view on vikings is one typical example, both in terms of "warriors" and "isolationism" (the vikings were basically, mostly traders, but that is not sexy enough for Hollywood nor "clash of civilisations" historians) Btw, except for some swedish attempts, the blessing of scandinavia is that there has been no imperialist aspirations in a long time, and the swedes still suffer from that, 250 years later. (empires and colonies tend to produce profound mental disturbances, especially in the homeland, something the swedes almost understood 200 years ago, when they lost finland to russia) Major joke that the first realpolitics finn is still seen as royal traitor in sweden, back in 1809, and the swedes have still not "got it", at least not historically nor academically. (the finn who negotiated peace with the russian tzar, according to the the idea of "natural borders", related to military mobility of that time)

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (11208)	11/23/2001 12:12:19 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 281500

"sad stuffings" relates to "clash of civilisations", corn, potato,tomato,turkeys, agriculture, right to property, cheap labor and ethnic cleansing, not to forget regular superiority and religion. Luckily there are some perfect solutions to the dilemmas, simply to fix them, better late than never. While working on those solutions, the most important aspect is to keep some "hope" of a better future, usually just a little realistic hope keeps terrorism away. Ilmarinen PS I am very impressed with the US solution of gambling and casinos, as no other stuffing seem domestically and politically possible.