To: blake_paterson who wrote (79942 ) 11/23/2001 11:12:07 AM From: SBHX Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93625 Ahhem, Report from someone who's seen these machines at work. We have quite a few of those systems equipped with 1.5GB of DDR first on the Athlon 1.4GHz via/sis/ALi chipset mobos, then on 1.5GB DDR P4-2GHz with via P4X266 mobos. We even upgraded some of those athlon to Athlon XP 1800+. These machines with Linux perform a bangup job and run substantially faster than the sun and HPs that we had for up to 1/50th of the cost, and easily run in 1/2 of the time as long as you don't run out of memory and swap to disk. So much so that we cut our sun and HP planned workstation purchases to < 1/3 of what we budgeted (hint to sunw bulls). For cost deltas like this, a system that starts two identical jobs on two machines just in case one dies in the 18 hours it takes to complete is still significantly cheaper. All thanks to memory so unbelievably cheap that we filled all machines we had with as much as they will take. The least stable things in those boxes appear to be the fans since the cpus run like like they'll fry if the fans die. We had one intermittently lock up because the exhaust fan in the power supply was too weak, replacing that $20 power supply fixed it. For using memory that 'barely works', these guys are doing an admirable job of pretending to be stable. SbH ... "malign me not, for I am a fierce and loyal worker", saith the lowly ddr dimm to the world. ... "if cut do I not bleed? if wronged do I not hurt?", pondered the lowly ddr dimm. "On second thought, maybe not". ... "I may be cheap, but I think I can.", saith the lowly ddr dimm as he chucks up that hill, delivering santa's toys to the children in the village.