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To: xcr600 who wrote (626)11/23/2001 12:23:05 PM
From: All Mtn Ski  Respond to of 644
 
xcr600,

I agree completely, religion is the worst thing man has ever created for itself.

A-M-S



To: xcr600 who wrote (626)12/1/2001 9:50:11 AM
From: Carl R.  Respond to of 644
 
You ask some very cynical questions indeed. As to why Christians try to convert people, and why they believe their religion is better, it comes from the fact that the Christian bible says that it is the only way to heaven. Thus, once you make the step of believing that the bible is in fact the inspired word of god, you have no other choice as far as your worldview. Other religions have a similar perspective - that their religion is correct. Thus Catholics believe their view is correct, Jews people believe they are correct, Moslems believe they are correct, Secular Huminists believe they are correct, and so forth. In the end only one group will be correct, but which is it? Is there a god? Is there a heaven? When we die the answer will become clear. I know what I believe, and I live my life accordingly. If someone asks, I will share my beliefs, but I don't believe I can forcibly persuade others to my point of view.

Can society live by a set of morals w/o religion? That is a topic in and of itself, and I can only scratch the surface here. A religion gives us a set of moral absolutes - say, the ten commandments. From a religious worldview, these are absolute, with no wiggle room. When you take the religion out of it, they are just guidelines. What is wrong for one person, or for one time, might not be a problem at another time. A set of moral absolutes gives you a starting point that helps you keep from sliding down a slippery slope. Is it wrong to steal? What if you are starving? What if the person you are stealing from won't notice? What if you truly intend to return it, so you are just borrowing it? What if every one else is doing it? And so it goes.

It is more than a stretch to blame christianity is to blame for 9/11. Christianity had nothing to do with it. Furthermore I would go beyond that and say that Islam had nothing to do with it, either. You are closer to the truth when you blame capitalism, but I don't think it is just that. I think that there is also dislike for the moral decadence of America that comes, in my opinion, from a lack of belief in moral absolutes. In the end, though, the blame clearly rests on the people who actually did it. In my opinion, these people were mis-using religion, contorting what it says to fit their agenda, which in the end, seeks power and glory for their person, and not glory for god, whatever god they may claim to worship.

I agree with you completely when it comes to freedom of religion. Each person has the right to believe as they see fit. They can believe that there is a god, or even multiple gods, if they like, that created man. Or they can believe that man is a random fluke of nature, and that man created god. Like you, I have no wish to offend anyone,

Carl