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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (24703)	11/24/2001 11:27:39 PM
From: Webster Groves	Respond to of 52237

"But what's more amusing is that there seem to be no end to the number of persons who will defend a totalitarian dictator who has outlasted every US president since Kennedy." This may be nit-picking, but I think he has outlasted all US presidents before Kennedy, too. (g) As you know, Castro is a big baseball fan. I think his falling out with the US began with the expansion of the big leagues. (I heard he was a Dodger fan). -wg Apologies to the thread - no more posts on this topic.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (24703)	11/24/2001 11:39:20 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 52237

Hawk, Re: Your exchange with Webster Groves - To wit, Groves: so why don't you do a few hundred pages on the (anti-Castro) CIA's linkages with the drug trade. Hawkmoon: It would probably be more appropriate to post the photos of the thousands of Cubans who risk their lives in small boats attempting to flee Cuba for the United States. ROTFL! Talk about a non-sequitor. Am I to conclude that you simply don't want to answer a harder question about your own government's dirty hands? "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." - Aldous Huxley

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (24703)	11/25/2001 4:09:35 PM
From: James Strauss	Respond to of 52237

Hawk: I concur with your analysis of Fidel and the real reason Cuba is floundering economically, politically, and socially... There is no freedom of speech in Cuba... Those that dare try are put in prison as political prisoners... Fidel doesn't trust his own people to select their government leadership... He rules with the strength of the gun, not the ballot... Cuba is suffering financially because Communism doesn't work... The ruse about the blockade is just an excuse to deflect the failures of big brother trying to control every facet of people's lives... It didn't work in Russia or Eastern Europe and it doesn't work there... Those in this country that have fantasies about Castro and his revolution obviously have not lived under his iron control... That's what's great about America... We all have the right to state our opinions, informed or uninformed... These same people would be in jail in Cuba for stating their opinions... Unfortunately they don't get it... Jim