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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: John Hunt who wrote (10972)	11/25/2001 12:11:30 PM
From: JustTradeEm	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

"Wait a minute," one of the leaders in the Hastert meeting said. One person makes a comment in a meeting and you take that as gospel ? Every major insurance company I know of declared that they would respect all claims regardless of a declaration of war or not. Yawn, moot point .... JB

To: John Hunt who wrote (10972)	11/25/2001 1:35:58 PM
From: Tadsamillionaire	Respond to of 27666

Here are ten points attributed to our great President, Abraham Lincoln..... 1. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. 2. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. 3. You cannot help small men up by tearing big men down. 4. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. 5. You cannot lift the wage-earner up by pulling the wage-payer down. 6. You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income. 7. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. 8. You cannot established sound social security on borrowed money. 9. You cannot build character and courage by taking away a man's initiative and independence. 10. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. I personally find these words as appropriate today as they were 140 years ago..... GZ

To: John Hunt who wrote (10972)	11/25/2001 3:51:30 PM
From: John Hunt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

FBI Closing in on evil gang [ November 25, 2001 -- The FBI is close to making the first arrests on U.S. soil directly linked to the Sept. 11 World Trade Center terror attacks, The Post has learned. The arrests could be in New York City, possibly within days but certainly within two weeks, sources say. "We're very close," a source said. "Stay tuned." The FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force plans to round up between three and five suspects on charges they "aided and abetted" the 19 hijackers who turned two commercial jets into explosive missiles that brought down the Twin Towers, wrecked the Pentagon and claimed nearly 4,000 innocent lives. "These are not material witnesses," one law-enforcement source said. "They facilitated the attack. They aided and abetted the hijackers." Sources said the suspects had not been arrested earlier because they are under intense surveillance as the FBI seeks leads in the hunt for Osama bin Laden and others in his al Qaeda terror network. The suspects' phones have been tapped for several weeks - with FBI agents under orders to make instant arrests at any sign they might attempt to flee, the sources said. It is not known whether the suspects were planning something, or just hiding. They could face 20 years to life in prison if convicted on a wide range of possible charges. They also could be tried in a special military court behind closed doors under new provisions ordered last week by President Bush. While more than 1,000 people have been detained on immigration charges or as material witnesses in the United States, none has yet been indicted with a charge directly relating to the organization of the Sept. 11 attacks. Overseas, alleged members of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network have been arrested and charged with having a hand in the attacks on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, including one suspect in Britain who allegedly taught four hijackers to fly and eight in Spain accused of aiding the plotters. Meanwhile, the Immigration and Naturalization Service yesterday announced the arrest of a Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad sympathizer in Tampa, Fla., on charges he violated his visa. Mazen al Najjar, who helped raise money for the anti-Israel and anti-U.S. groups, was ordered deported by the U.S. 11th Circuit court in Atlanta. Al Najjar is not directly linked to Sept. 11. Sources would not say what led the FBI to the suspects, but there are several possibilities: * Evidence gleaned from suspected al Qaeda members busted in Canada, Britain, Germany, Spain, Jordan and other countries in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks. * Information from scores of material witnesses who testified before grand juries here. * Leads spilled by suspect Zacarias Moussaoui, who has allegedly cooperated with probers here since he was brought to the city Sept. 13 on immigration charges. Moussaoui, 33, was arrested Aug. 17 after he drew suspicion at a Minnesota flight school by paying $6,800 in cash to train on a flight simulator to learn how to steer a Boeing 747. An FBI check of his computer turned up information about crop-dusters, spurring the Federal Aviation Administration to ban their use nationwide for several days. Moussaoui, a French national of Moroccan descent, is suspected of being part of a separate planned hijacking attack in Europe, federal sources said. But he is yet to be charged with anything other than immigration violations. The FBI also has continued to probe meetings between Mohamed Atta and other hijackers that are thought to have taken place at the Helmsley New York Hotel just days before the attack. ] nypost.com