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To: semiconeng who wrote (149337)11/25/2001 4:56:30 PM
From: fyodor_  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
semi: There seems to be some evidence... circumstantial to be sure, that there MIGHT be some sort of Driver Update compatability issues, in some circumstances, with AMD XP and Windows XP. We'll see...

Nope. Tom's was a chipset issue (which always reflects poorly on the CPU company in question, in addition to both the chipset and motherboard company involved). The "driver update" issue is solely with regards to enabling PowerNow! in retail versions of WinXP (where MS "forgot" to include the appropriate dll).

-fyo



To: semiconeng who wrote (149337)11/25/2001 5:24:12 PM
From: Dan3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Re: AMD XP is gasping for air on 0.18u, and 0.13u is nowhere in sight

AMD's .18 128mm2 Athlon XP on a 266mhz FSB significantly outperforms Intel's .18 217mm2 P4 on a 400mhz FSB.

So far, the chips from Intel's .13 generation havne't been able to keep up with either Intel or AMD .18 parts in terms of performance, and the .13 79mm2 mobile PIII uses almost as much power as the .18 128mm2 mobile Athlon4.

AMD's .13 Thoroughbred was demonstrated at Comdex, and pictures of samples have been leaked to the web.

Intel is just getting started on SOI, having started working with copper too late to learn that SOI is necessary for a performance .13.

Intel looks to be facing a .13 generation as bad as was AMD's .25 generation.

Ouch!



To: semiconeng who wrote (149337)11/25/2001 10:48:32 PM
From: Charles Gryba  Respond to of 186894
 
I'm running Windows XP on an Athlon XP1600+. No problems whatsoever. Runs 24/7.

C



To: semiconeng who wrote (149337)11/25/2001 11:52:15 PM
From: Bill Jackson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Semi, Looks like your driver quibbles have been crushed.
As for Home run repeats, AMD can do that. Intel may also have a few strikeouts?

Bill