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To: milo_morai who wrote (149372)	11/25/2001 7:52:07 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Respond to of 186894

Milo, Re: "you scraping the bottom of you brain thinking AMD has no Idea. They know more then you and everyone on these threads combined what is going on at INTC and there own Fabs." I don't doubt that AMD has ways of knowing certain things about the performance predictions of Intel CPUs, but you are way off if you think they can narrow it down enough to make marketing predictions two years in advance. Re: "We do know that Hammers IPC is at least 50% faster then Athlon." You are way off on this, too. Hammer won't come anywhere near 50% faster in IPC over Athlon. wbmw

To: milo_morai who wrote (149372)	11/25/2001 8:07:12 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

We do know that Hammers IPC is at least 50% faster then Athlon. Also we know it will debut between 2Ghz and 2.5Ghz. I wouldn't be so sure of your predictions, as P4 was supposed to blow Athlon away in IPC and it's 30% slower. Milo, a little refresher... The first P6 was the Pentium Pro @ 150, 166, 180 & 200MHz. PPro performed worse than Pentium on old code. PPro was followed by Klamath. Klamath was followed by Deschutes. Deschutes was followed by Katmai. Katmai was followed by Coppermine. Coppermine was followed by Tualatin.... The PPro FSB was completely re-engineered. It ran at 66MHz and was condemned by the pundits as a bad design intended only to lock AMD out. They couldn't see that it enabled seamless multiprocessing and would scale to (soon) 533MHz and beyond and support Intel's product line from Celeron to top end mainframe class multiprocessor servers. All they could see was junk. Now you've seen Willamette and only Willamette and you think you can draw a conclusion about it's potential. I don't think so... EP

To: milo_morai who wrote (149372)	11/25/2001 8:42:05 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 186894

Ban Ban MindBlo Moron - Why aren't you posting over on the Banny Mani Thought Control thread with all the other HemmorDroids ? You guys are in a Ban Ban Panic mode these days !! AMD - losses ahead - and you a$$hole droids are going to be slipped another one by your Jerrihad leader ! Bend over, Droids !!