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To: fyodor_ who wrote (149497)	11/26/2001 9:13:46 AM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

The P4 / AGP board-burnout problem is looking more serious for Intel: That may be connected with the fact that this issue doesn't mean anything to one who hasn't had a good look at our article and that - from a superficial point of view - only ancient, but no current graphic boards are considered to be concerned. Counteracting this we're listing, as detailed below, those graphic boards which are (or might be) concerned according to our present knowledge: some nVidia Riva TNT2 all nVidia Vanta, Vanta LT all SiS 6326 all S3 Savage4 below revision 3.0 all 3dfx Grafikkarten (officially non-AGP 4x anyhow) some nVidia GeForce2 GTS/Pro Sources: Heise Newsticker, x-bit Labs, 3DCenter Forum Especially the latter report is very interesting as it indicates that some graphic boards clearly sold as "AGP 4x" are definitely non-AGP 4x, scrapping themselves and the respective motherboard when plugged into an i845 or i850 board and moreover shouldn't be named "AGP 4x" at all as they don't master AGP 4x mode! hardtecs4u.com

To: fyodor_ who wrote (149497)	11/26/2001 12:23:10 PM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Sorry, Fyo, but I think you're making it out to be much more complicated than it has to be. Here's one thing you didn't mention: the major OEMs all use Intel and can afford, no, make it have to, do a much more stringent qual job than AMD's major customers, who seem to be more and more white boxers. Also, the 80 - 20 rule, Intel sales over AMD, causes 4X as many Intel based PCs to get out in a given period of time for the millions of users to expose any bugs that the OEMs didn't find. So, AMD system bugs, whether from the CPU or any part of the infrastructure, can take longer to find. I'd rather let the huge user community out there do the debugging for me, and buy an Intel based system, say, 6 to 9 months after it's released. Kind of like not buying the first year of a new car model. Whatever way you look at it, the higher amount of AMD system problems reported on the net cannot be giving potential customers a warm fuzzy feeling. Buy Intel. Tony