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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: jttmab who wrote (7903)11/28/2001 4:45:26 PM
From: Mephisto  Respond to of 93284
 
Bush keeps talking about IRAQ, jtmab, especially if Iraq refuses to let the UN in to look at the weapons
in the country. Hopefully, the US Senate will moderate Bush's hawkish intent. Today, Specter, a
Republican and a Conservative, opens hearings on what the Bush administration has been doing without proper consent from Congress.



To: jttmab who wrote (7903)11/28/2001 4:47:13 PM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Questioning the President's Authority
The New York Times

November 28, 2001

By ARLEN SPECTER

WASHINGTON -- America is fighting against "the most evil kinds of
people," President Bush said last week, explaining his executive order
creating special military tribunals for foreign terrorists. "I need to have that
extraordinary option at my fingertips."

But the administration has yet to show where the president gets the authority for this
extraordinary executive order. I have called for hearings of the Senate Judiciary
Committee, beginning today, to allow the administration the opportunity to explain
itself. I am pleased that Attorney General John Ashcroft has agreed to testify before
the committee next week.

The president's order says it derives its authority in part from a federal statute
requiring that the president, "so far as he considers practicable, apply the principles
of law and the rules of evidence generally recognized in the trial of criminal cases in
the United States district courts."

The order allows evidence to be admitted without regard to the normal rules of a
criminal trial if it is deemed to have "probative value to a reasonable person." It
permits conviction by a two-thirds vote of the majority of the military commission
hearing the case. The order also specifically prohibits any proceeding in federal
courts or any other court and allows for review only by the president or secretary of
defense.

The administration argues that these constraints are necessary. "Given the danger to
the safety of the United States and the nature of international terrorism," applying
normal rules of justice "is not practicable," according to the president's order. But
the order itself contains precious little rationale for suspending such rules.

Simply declaring that applying traditional principles of law or rules of evidence is not
practicable is hardly sufficient. The usual test is whether our national security
interests outweigh our due-process rights, and the administration has not yet made
this case. In doing so, it would have to explain how so many terrorists have been
convicted in our federal courts using time-honored criminal procedures.

Since the Constitution empowers the Congress to establish courts with exclusive
jurisdiction over military offenses, some consultation with leadership before the
promulgation of the order would have been appropriate. No member of the Senate
Judiciary Committee, to my knowledge, was consulted or even notified in advance
of this order.

Congress has fully cooperated with the president in the war against terrorism with
legislation authorizing the use of force and the appropriation of billions of dollars at
the president's request. We promptly passed a statute, in public and with detailed
rationale available in the Congressional Record, broadening law enforcement
powers to fight terrorism.

It may be that the executive branch can justify the extraordinary and far-reaching
powers called for in the order. However, even in war, Congress and the courts have
critical roles in establishing the appropriate balance between national security and
civil rights. We should not forget that decades after interning United States citizens
of Japanese extraction, the government apologized and paid reparations.

Vigorous Congressional oversight is the indispensable first step in determining what
is "practicable" in finding that balance.

Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania, is a member of the Senate
Judiciary Committee.


nytimes.com



To: jttmab who wrote (7903)12/14/2001 10:38:01 AM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Time will tell.


timesofindia.indiatimes.com

That article is an illustration of why I think we may go after a non-Muslim state. Somalia or Sudan might be good choices

You may be right
TP