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To: slacker711 who wrote (16887)11/28/2001 9:38:17 AM
From: ronho  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 34857
 
Found this by a Mr Garrett on another thread. Is there any truth to this?

From GSMBOX - Most wireless applications can’t run on GPRS networks

Up to 43 per cent of data gets lost on GPRS networks, making it almost impossible to run conventional internet
applications across them, according to the first independent trials. The new high-speed GPRS data networks are just
starting to be launched in volume for consumers and businesses, but they're not as efficient as had first been hoped,
according to trials from mobile software company FlyingSPARK. Their surveys of radio networks showed that while
GPRS coverage is almost universal, the performance of the networks is far from perfect.

Up to 43 per cent of data packets got lost on the way from the radio terminal to the mast, and the latency - or the delay
between a request and a response - was up to five seconds. Conventional applications based on the TCP protocol that
underpins wireline internet can't cope with these tough wireless conditions. Most TCP connections will have timed out
after five seconds, and most wireless applications, such as those used by travelling salesmen and field service
professionals, are built on TCP. The TCP applications examined, such as WAP over GPRS, have had serious
reliability problems. FlyingSPARK has developed its own alternative protocol, based on the much simpler UPD
standard, which copes better with the rigours of the wireless environment.

Keith Day of FlyingSPARK said: "TCP involves a hell of a lot of to-ing and fro-ing which is fine in a wireline
environment but hopeless for wireless. In a wireless environment all that has to be paid for. "We've built a protocol
that cuts most of that to-ing and fro-ing out by managing the connection intelligently at either end." FlyingSPARK
expects to announce a deal with one of the major UK wireless operators shortly.

uk.gsmbox.com

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We should know over time how credible this story is - but it's certainly spreading... GSMBOX is a well-followed UK
reviewer of GSM/GPRS handsets and services.

Perhaps the limitation to TCP/IP applications, or a fully free rural network, explains Mr. Walliker's noted success...



To: slacker711 who wrote (16887)11/28/2001 10:44:23 AM
From: Dave  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 34857
 
And the tap dance continues, moving from 1xrtt to any flavor of CDMA...



To: slacker711 who wrote (16887)11/28/2001 1:31:44 PM
From: Eric L  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 34857
 
Slacker,

<< tear out their GSM/TDMA infrastructure for some form of CDMA? ... I can think of two. Cingular and Nextel. >>

Cingular?

You be thinking of AWS who is getting to WCDMA from IS-136 through GSM GPRS?

... or you counting on more spectrum for Cingular?

- Eric -