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To: FaultLine who wrote (11892)	11/29/2001 12:04:23 AM
From: Rollcast...	Respond to of 281500

Germany Warns U.S. on Wider Anti-Terror War November 28, 2001 11:56 AM ET reuters.com Email this article Printer friendly version BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany warned the United States Wednesday against expanding its war on terrorism in Afghanistan to countries such as Iraq and Somalia. "All European nations would view a broadening (of the conflict) to include Iraq highly skeptically -- and that is putting it diplomatically," Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer told parliament. Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder reiterated his support for the U.S.-led coalition but said Germany was not "simply waiting to intervene militarily elsewhere in the world, such as Iraq or Somalia." Both men suggested that bombing Iraq could trigger a wider, uncontrollable conflict in the Middle East. "We should be particularly careful about a discussion about new targets in the Middle East -- more could blow up in our faces there than any of us realize," Schroeder said. "We should try and solve the region's problems politically," Fischer added. President Bush declared last week that "the front against terror is not just in Afghanistan....we're going to fight terror wherever it exists." This week Bush insisted that President Saddam Hussein allow inspectors back into Iraq to show he was not developing weapons of mass destruction. Asked what would happen if Saddam refused, Bush replied: "He'll find out." Some U.S. and Israeli officials have mentioned a putative "phase two," in which the international community would act to isolate a range of Arab and Islamic militant groups and states accused of sponsoring them. But there have been fears that a move into somewhere like Iraq could strain the coalition, unless Baghdad was proven to have had a hand in the September 11 suicide attacks that killed nearly 4,000 people in the United States. Schroeder told parliament: "We will do what is necessary. We will do everything to make sure the anti-terror coalition stays solid. But we should be careful about comments in magazines, newspapers, or from certain junior ministers, looking for new targets already." Last week a junior minister in the Foreign Ministry, Christoph Zoepel, said that Schroeder's Social Democrats would back an anti-terror group in Somalia. ($1=2.209 Mark)

To: FaultLine who wrote (11892)	11/29/2001 3:40:16 AM
From: unclewest	Respond to of 281500

were you the guy waving the .45? never have liked that one...never seemed right to me. it was either too big or too small. i carried a CAR 15...on compounds were you had to turn in weapons, i always kept a beretta (and sometimes a frag) under my shirt...only took them off to shower and then reluctantly. that SF Mike Force club was a wild wild place sometimes. like an old west saloon. two regulars from there...Sievers and Daniels were KIA at ben het mid-march 1969. Here is where I lived (the one on front) wow! nice hooch. bet ya had sheets too. i see the sandbag garden...how did ya like the rockets they kept sending your way? talk about trading steaks...our demo man used to trade nva weapons for cases of steaks at the back door of the USAF mess hall. got beer the same way at your NCO club. he would get a caribou driver to fly them in with the next ammo resupply. LOL...never heard of anyone getting a steak out the back door of an SF club. nice job. when i was a guest at your base hospital...they disarmed me...my best bud came that night to check out security...there was none...all we had was a sand filled ammo box under the bunk to hide behind when attacked. he left and returned with another teammate later...they emptied my sand and replaced it with an M16 and filled mags. i never had to open the box but always wondered who found them and what they thought. fond memories for me...a different time...a challenging job...the best and most trustworthy friends...i'll leave the topic for now with this, written by Major O'Donnell who was later KIA at dak to. "If you are able, save for them a place inside of you and save one backward glance when you are leaving for the places they can no longer go. Be not ashamed to say you loved them, though you may or may not have always. Take what they have taught you with their dying and keep it with your own. And in that time when men decide and feel safe to call the war insane, take one moment to embrace those gentle heroes you left behind."