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To: RON BL who wrote (205491)	11/29/2001 12:18:27 AM
From: rich4eagle	Respond to of 769670

Hi keep up the good work

To: RON BL who wrote (205491)	11/29/2001 1:30:38 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

re: I saw a test from the turn of the century that was geared to the 8 th grade America student and I think that 70 % of the Harvard liberal arts grads would fail it. Those "turn of the century tests" have been appearing so often on the net, I'm begining to doubt their validity. I don't think you or I could pass it either. And I know my parents would not have passed and they were turn of century students although they only went to 3rd and 5th grade...I wonder how many kids of that era made it to 8th grade. My in-laws both graduated and I know they wouldn't have passed it either. The bigger thing that bothers me about our education system is why don't more of our bright science college grads go on to grad school and why do even fewer get their PhD's. I think I am not exagerating when I say that 50-75% of science and engineering PhD candidates are foreign born and mostly Asian. And btw, science and engineering students are almost guaranteed a free ride plus living expenses via research and teaching assistantships. In the research centers of our major hi tech companies I estimate foreign born make up at least 70% of their PhD's. I know for a fact it's that way at IBM. We can't blame that on our primary and secondary schools. The only reason I can see is that native born Americans don't have the ambition or drive to go much beyond bachelor's degrees. re: When I finished HS in Montreal in 64 I had translated Latin and Greek prose and finished a year of Calculus and I was in the dunce class in my school. If you were in the dunce class, where did all the bright Canadian students go? If they remained on home soil, one would have expected greater things from north of the border. I'm not being sarcastic, just curious..