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To: SirRealist who wrote (11908)	11/29/2001 5:51:37 AM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Respond to of 281500

Americans Favor Military Courts in Terror War dailynews.yahoo.com Wednesday November 28 9:34 PM ET Americans Favor Military Courts in Terror War WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Americans overwhelmingly support some of the U.S. government's controversial anti-terrorism measures including military courts to try suspects and eavesdropping on prisoner-lawyer conversations, according to a poll released on Wednesday. The ABC News/Washington Post poll found 59 percent of those questioned favor military tribunals to try non-citizens charged with terrorism and 73 percent support the wiretapping of conversations between suspects held on terrorism charges and their lawyers. The survey also found 78 percent of Americans would support military action against Iraq to force President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) from power. Political analysts regard Iraq as a possible next target in President Bush (news - web sites)'s war on terrorism after the current U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan (news - web sites). The telephone poll, conducted on Nov. 27, surveyed 759 adults and has a 3.5 percentage point margin of error. The Bush administration's anti-terror measures after the Sept. 11 passenger jet assaults on the World Trade Center and Pentagon (news - web sites) have come under fire from some lawmakers and civil libertarians who question whether Americans are ceding cherished freedoms. Two weeks ago, Bush declared an ``extraordinary emergency'' that permits him to order military trials for suspected terrorists arrested in the United States or abroad. Defendants could be tried in secret and convicted on a two-thirds majority vote, both contrary to normal U.S. judicial procedure. The government has also said it has jailed some 600 people since the attacks, many on immigration violations, and wants to interview about 5,000 people of Middle Eastern origin. The survey found 79 percent supported efforts to interview young Middle Eastern men despite complaints the campaign amounted to unfair profiling on the basis of national origin. The Bush administration says the Sept. 11 hijackers, who killed about 3,900 people, were of Middle East origin. Eighty-six percent said the government's detentions since Sept. 11 are justified. The poll also found 91 percent favor the U.S. military action in Afghanistan -- launched in response to the plane attacks -- and Bush continues to enjoy strong support, with 89 percent approval of his job performance. Eighty-one percent of those surveyed said they would support military action against other countries that assist or shelter terrorists.

To: SirRealist who wrote (11908)	11/29/2001 10:34:48 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

And the proposed tribunals have markedly different rules than those you mentioned If I may ask, how was Nuremburg "different" that what has been proposed as an option currently? There was apparently considerable dissent back then when the the Nazis were put on trial before a military tribunal, but the supreme court upheld the constitutionality of its use for trying non-US citizens for acts of war. And I hardly concur that military tribunals, and/or courts-martial are "jury-rigged". They abide by the law and liberalistas like Alan Dershowitz acknowledge their legitimacy. villagevoice.com "It's one thing to subject prisoners of war who are captured on foreign battlefields to secret military tribunals. Though secret military trials of Bin Laden and his foreign associates may be unwise, they would be constitutional. It is quite another thing to treat American residents, some with long ties to this country, as if they had no rights under our constitution." The question is whether US alien residents can be considered to be spies under espionage statutes. They have civil rights, but not the same as those of US citizens, especially during times of war. They can be legally held for up to 12 months. And depending upon the status of the resident and the evidence being accumulated against them (and it's sensitivity), each case should be examined individually. There is always the possibility of putting them on trial in "Spy Court", which is what some call the Federal court that handles spy cases, including classified information. Hawk