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To: MSI who wrote (12007)	11/29/2001 7:40:35 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I don't believe MKULTRA was in operation until the 50s Don't ask me why I put the MK in front of the Ultra... Sheer cerebral flatulence..... Ultra was the operation operated out of Bletchley Park which deciphered Nazi Enigma and Japanese communications, and it was HIGHLY SECRET up until 1973, when F.W. Winterbotham's The Ultra Secret, was published detailing this secret effort, and even then not officially acknowledged by the British government. MK Ultra, on the other hand, was the CIA's program dealing with mind control and LSD experiments, that occurred in the late '50s... Thanks for keeping me straight... Hawk

To: MSI who wrote (12007)	11/29/2001 7:51:15 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Respond to of 281500

My personal feeling (and that's all it is, of course) is this: if there's a trial, it shouldn't be broadcast in real time because I think the matter is too serious to be reduced to the level of mere entertainment, which it would be, because that's as much a mockery of justice as anything else. Our "right to know" would not be substantively infringed by a 48 hour tape delay or some similar buffer between us and instant vicarious titillation. As far as suspicious minds go, I suspect there's little real help for them, the acreage is so vast and the fields are so fertile.