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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: jttmab who wrote (7989)12/1/2001 8:32:34 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Respond to of 93284
 
As usual, the devil is in the details. Lincoln didn't say the southern states couldn't secede; that would be a real tough case to justify legally. What he said was that United States federal property in the territory of the CSA remained US property. From the southern point of view, this was outrageous. This meant little pockets of enemy territory were peppered all through you. So they decided to fight.

why not start a war with Canada?
Any Canadian on the site would be happy, I'm sure, to point out that the US considered this more than once. I think it would be a hard sell to the American people, though. These days the Canadians are largely looked at as "us", except further north and with a different government.

Czechoslovia was a pretty unique situation that worked out very well. There was never any conflicts between Bohemia and Slovakia; they just wanted to be rid of the Hungarian empire. The Slavic folks in Cleveland and Pittsburgh figured out the merger as a way of getting political leverage for the formation post WWI. And it appears that the cultures in the region continued to see themselves as separate from each other through the subsequent decades. I've talked to a couple of my aunts that while born in the US, their parents were born in either the Czech Republic or Slovakia and it's still ingrained that they were always separate regions, and we didn't talk to those people... It's been over a hundred years since they each branch immigrated and they still talk about those people.
Now wait a minute, somebody must have been talking to somebody or they wouldn't both be your aunts! :-)
Interesting. I've read things that have hinted at this, but never came out and said it.
Yeah, this seems to be one of the few instances where a secession problem got solved without bullets.