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To: elmatador who wrote (17027)	11/30/2001 6:59:42 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

OT: EMS and Buck, I was making an attempt at a joke.. Btw, I would need some help on one joke I heard long time ago but cannot really formulate correctly. Based on what Orwell described as persons and nonpersons, persons declared as nonpersons, same as what still happens now and then. As I remember it there was two persons, A and B, three sentences, that person, something like this A: How is Mr EMS doing these days (or something similar) B: ??? (this is what I cannot formulate, but Mr EMS must be mentioned at the end??) A: Who are you talking about (referring to the now non-person declared Mr EMS) Only yahoo hit found, but a good one (for me) aircrash.org . . . As a nationally known ecologist, author Barry Commoner was a frequent guest on national television shows--until the day he was nominated presidential candidate for the Citizen's Party and became virtually a nonperson. continues: While the local media are sometimes accessible to third-party candidates, etc,etc... Ilmarinen Btw, what is Mr Bill doing in terms of mobile phones and the special job he started to concentrate on?? In the little string of Nokia-history because of the published Nokia-history that little clip from maybe 1998 was shown, Bill Gates on a FInland visit, responding to the question "when will MSFT buy Nokia" with a little shrug and a little kind of something like a smile. But who knows, maybe it will become possible to open the (Perot) hood on Windows when it doesn't boot or just crashed, just to get an idea on why, which reminds me of another classic, what the car industry should do to come out with a windows-like car. What was it, one were supposed to step out of the car, if one can open the door, press the horn, front buffer and the antenna at the same time to get it started again?? (I have understood that Sendo would use the regular alt-ctl-del thing, but the 10 million keys will not be delivered on time for Per Lindberg??)

To: elmatador who wrote (17027)	11/30/2001 8:49:51 PM
From: Eric L	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 34857

Matador, << EMS will not see the light of the day. >> New life being breathed into EMS ... ... recently standardized by 3GPP2 for 1xRTT so EMS will be Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiig. <g> Made "The Buck" VERY happy. <ggg> He still hasn't commented on Samsung licensing Nokia Series 60 "Dumb Messaging" yet. >> Now CDMA adopts EMS - the Enhanced Messaging standard is selected by 3GPP2 Simon Buckingham Mobile Streams 20 July 2001 In a momentous step, last week the CDMA world in the form of the 3GPP2 standards body adopted the Enhanced Messaging Service (EMS) standards that were originally developed by the 3GPP. The 3GPP took over from ETSI in setting standards for the GSM/ W-CDMA/ UMTS world, whereas the 3GPP2 is the equivalent standards body for the CDMA/ cdma2000 world. The implications are that EMS content and services such as ringtones and picture messages will be available on CDMA phones as well as GSM ones. Sources have told Mobile Streams that getting EMS implemented within TDMA standards will be a struggle. Nokia has implemented its proprietary Smart messaging alternative to Enhanced messaging on its GSM phones and TDMA phones, leaving the total mobile market fragmented between the EMS and smart messaging protocols. This latest news is another sign of the growing momentum behind the EMS standards. In the past few weeks, the first EMS phones have started to ship in markets such as Italy, the UK and Singapore (the Ericsson T20e), Alcatel, Ericsson, Siemens and Motorola have all publicly committed to EMS and version 5 of the EMS standards was agreed which added great features like sophisticated (polyphonic) ringtones, support for a wide range of colors and sounds and many other features. Nokia’s smart messaging, which does not include these features or other EMS features such as animated messages, is starting to look more and more like "dumb messaging". Not wanting to repeat the mistake it made supporting HSCSD rather than GPRS in the high speed data space, Nokia will surely wish to adopt EMS rather than spend more time updating its own Smart Messaging protocol. Nokia cannot afford to be late with MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service) devices so it is likely to focus on that. As well as leading the EMS world, Ericsson is already leading the MMS world with plans for its T68 phone. It can surely only be a question of time before Nokia adopt EMS- the company is surely smart enough to recognize a brilliant advance in features and functionality over what it can offer. << - Eric -